Xros Wars Reference Book Refresh Finished- Levels & Attributes Added

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Guess I forgot t read his profile so I feel kinda bad mostly just glanced at his levels. And yeah I figured this was something they were slowly working on snce at least the X2. Since before I think any time a Xros digi showed up it was probably a free for all, like how in Jintrix Merva got listed as a perfect.

And yeah there's a handful of stuff that seems odd, But I definitely feel when they announced this that it had been in the works for a bit, especially when I looked at the PenZ NSp set... I couldn't help but feel Blastmon would fit so well as one of the hidden Ultimates, mostly cause I feel he would fit so well with Gogmamon... and now that he's a vaccine type it does seem even more likely that maybe this couldbe leading towards that.
 

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I’m pretty annoyed that Beelzebumon XW isn’t a Vaccine and Cyberdramon XW isn’t a Virus both to account for their differing personalities and to differentiate them more. At least Blue Flare Greymon is Virus.

If anything that's worse, because what is different between Greymon (Blue) and Greymon (2010) now?
 

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To be fair, Virus at least makes sense for this iteration of Greymon's characterization as I recall him being pretty hostile in both anime and manga before Christopher teamed up with Mikey.
 

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I’m pretty annoyed that Beelzebumon XW isn’t a Vaccine and Cyberdramon XW isn’t a Virus both to account for their differing personalities and to differentiate them more. At least Blue Flare Greymon is Virus.

If anything that's worse, because what is different between Greymon (Blue) and Greymon (2010) now?

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I’m pretty annoyed that Beelzebumon XW isn’t a Vaccine and Cyberdramon XW isn’t a Virus both to account for their differing personalities and to differentiate them more. At least Blue Flare Greymon is Virus.

If anything that's worse, because what is different between Greymon (Blue) and Greymon (2010) now?

Cool headphones?
And an ax-tail. Plus Xros Greymon's been hitting the same gym as GeoGreymon, so it's not as pudgy.
 

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I just noticed while its minor there are a handful of Digimon that I kinda hope get some entries (despite them being pretty old and probably forgotten)

X4K
X4/5S

X3GM/SD

RampageGreymon
GreyKnightmon

X4K i would probably assume is a perfect like X4B and X5
X4S and X5S I feel are a little harder to place would the new weapon be enough to up X4 to the Perfect tier? Or would it still be an Adult? Either way X5S is naturally the tier above I'd probably go with X4S (adult) and X5S (perfect) simply cause I don't think the spear is enough to upgrade X5S to the Ultimate Level.

X3GM and X3SD however where would we place them?


Rampage Grey I'd assume is a Perfect since I feel adding Ballista and Dorulu is about the same as adding Cyberdra

GreyKnightmon however would this be a Perfect or Ultimate?
 

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In the beginning of the franchise vaccine was good and virus was evil, but to introduce better balance in the games and such around the time of tamers it was Re-interpreted that vaccine equals order and hierarchies, Virus means anarchy/chaos/power, and Data means peace.

"Good" and "evil" are human concepts, not actual things that exist. You can't differentiate species by saying "this is good and this is evil" if you are attempting to take things seriously, and notably, very few Digimon works ever bothered - even as early as Digimon World there are plenty of Virus types I would call good or at least neutral, and a fair few Vaccine Digimon that are straight up just monsters.

Tamers made it obvious because the MC had a Virus partner, but long before that you had things like Ogremon working with the main cast and being eminently loyal, to a fairly absurd degree, the many helpful Numemon, and both Scumon and Tyumon being fairly decent considering one is mobile shit.

If anything that's worse, because what is different between Greymon (Blue) and Greymon (2010) now?

Blaster Tail. Greymon 2010 actually leads better into Metalgreymon, which is kinda hilarious when you remember that the viral Metalgreymon is supposed to be generally a failure.
 

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X4S and X5S I feel are a little harder to place would the new weapon be enough to up X4 to the Perfect tier? Or would it still be an Adult? Either way X5S is naturally the tier above I'd probably go with X4S (adult) and X5S (perfect) simply cause I don't think the spear is enough to upgrade X5S to the Ultimate Level.

I feel like X4S would be a Perfect as well since X4 + Sparrowmon is a Perfect and Sparrowmon and Spadamon are the same level.
 

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Not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind if they used XW Greymon in place of Blue!Greymon in games and whatnot going forward since it looks so much better. They can keep the old Virus MetalGreymon in though, I have a soft spot for that guy since the first Digimon World. <3
 

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They should’ve just named XW MetalGreymon “MailGreymon”, tbh.
 

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So a gander through Digimon history and of all the Digimon that have been listed as Xros Wars level at one point another are in the DRB with the exception of Shoutmon X3GM, GrandGeneramon, and GreyKnightsmon who are XW level in Heroes. Perhaps they will pop up in the DRB soon based on that, as theyre now the only Digimon that have ever had "Xros Wars" as a level, that now lack a regular level.

Anything else like Shoutmon X6 has never actually been assigned a level, Xros Wars or otherwise.
 
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So a gander through Digimon history and of all the Digimon that have been listed as Xros Wars level at one point another are in the DRB with the exception of Shoutmon X3GM and GreyKnightsmon who are XW level in Heroes. Perhaps they will pop up in the DRB soon based on that, as theyre now the only Digimon that have ever had "Xros Wars" as a level, that now lack a regular level.

Anything else like Shoutmon X6 has never actually been assigned a level, Xros Wars or otherwise.
It seems likely the staff for the manga and anime had a lot of creative freedom to design new DigiXroses but Bandai isn’t interested in writing up profiles and official art for the dozens of villain DigiXrosses.
 

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Most likely those that already have art have a decent chance.
 

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X4S and X5S I feel are a little harder to place would the new weapon be enough to up X4 to the Perfect tier? Or would it still be an Adult? Either way X5S is naturally the tier above I'd probably go with X4S (adult) and X5S (perfect) simply cause I don't think the spear is enough to upgrade X5S to the Ultimate Level.

I feel like X4S would be a Perfect as well since X4 + Sparrowmon is a Perfect and Sparrowmon and Spadamon are the same level.
Good point but that'd likely up X5S to Ultimate level which seems a bit much for being X5 plus a spear. X4S is pretty much just X4 with a different weapon last i checked and I don't think a weapon change is enough to justify an upgrade. Atleast X5(4+sparrow) gains flight+ a weapon.

Maybe some day X3GM, X3SD, and GreyKnightsmon will get a DRB profile. I know the likelihood is low since theres really no reason for them to get any. I mean unless they suddenly decided to include them in some other game then sure but that'd be about it, and of those only GreyKnights seems likely due to his name not being so painfully obvious as a Xros form. Rampage Grey never got any official art outsideof his manga appearance... so he's kinda like EX6 in that regards though EX6 got a few drawings at the very least.

But over all I'm pretty happy, any issues I have with any of the levels is likely more issues with some of the decisions made during XW(especially during young hunters) Like them over using the term 'chou shinka' it was kinda like my primary issue with Data Squad(Data squad not Savers) where the team working on it just didn't seem to care enough to fact check or something. Resulting in "Warp Digivolve" and "Double warp digivolve" Or in the case of XW the over use of Chou shinka just cause it sounded cooler- not really caring about the fact that it was up to that point exclusively used for Adult>Perfect.
 

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It seems likely the staff for the manga and anime had a lot of creative freedom to design new DigiXroses but Bandai isn’t interested in writing up profiles and official art for the dozens of villain DigiXrosses.
That's pretty much the impression I got. Toei seems like it just got free reign to do whatever the hell they felt like with little to none of Bandai's supervision, and as a result, we've gotten a ton of creature designs that're likely doomed to be one-offs. As I rant about in more detail here.....
.....the various anime/manga-only DigiXroses are something I could live without, but I wouldn't be against (most of) them being more properly implemented into the franchise at some point, if it were to miraculously happen.
 

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I literally just realized Ganemon, Zenimon, and KoZenimon are a Jojo reference.
 

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? How so? All I see are coins and money. With tiny limbs. Hardly pose like that in Jojo style.
 

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In regards to GreyKnightsmon, I could definitely see them putting that one into the DRB sooner or later since it has both official art and a profile from the game it debuted in which they could just transplant both into the DRB. That would just leave the Level and the Attribute to sort out:

Attribute is easy since MetalGreymon and DarkKnightmon are both Viruses so presumably GreyKnightsmon would still be a Virus as well. They're both Perfects as well which is trickier as DigiXros isn't necessarily the same as Jogress and so it could still technically be a Perfect still or maybe it could be an Ultimate as its body is made of 4 Adults not unlike how Shoutmon X4 is an Adult whilst X5 is a Perfect despite only comprising of Child/Adult Digimon.

:unsure:
 

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The Xroses from the Story games would all have official art, but not in Watanabe’s style. Though I wonder if that would matter given that the x Digimon are all in different styles, too.

? How so? All I see are coins and money. With tiny limbs. Hardly pose like that in Jojo style.

He’s Harvest. If not exactly in appearance then in actions and powers.
 

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Oh those tiny "Bee" Stands. Hmm I can kinda see it.
 
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