What are your Digimon headcanons?

[Tarama]

I think I agree with @TMS

It's simply they are rebooted as they are reborn, but they have that optimal potential in their data to get their best forms in every evolution. With this, let's assume that the lines in the series are the best lines for the species, or for them especially, specifically. They are not the descendants of the warriors who fought in a great war in the past, but instead they are the warriors who did and are reborn. So it's safe to say the data of their past selves are still there somewhere.

With partners, they unlock some routes that were not in their past. Like BlitzGreymon, CresGarurumon, Muchomon, and Pegasmon. Even Omegamon, the holy knight in the legend, gets another form in the final battle, because of partners.

 

[JR9386]

I think I agree with @TMS

It's simply they are rebooted as they are reborn, but they have that optimal potential in their data to get their best forms in every evolution. With this, let's assume that the lines in the series are the best lines for the species, or for them especially, specifically. They are not the descendants of the warriors who fought in a great war in the past, but instead they are the warriors who did and are reborn. So it's safe to say the data of their past selves are still there somewhere.

With partners, they unlock some routes that were not in their past. Like BlitzGreymon, CresGarurumon, Muchomon, and Pegasmon. Even Omegamon, the holy knight in the legend, gets another form in the final battle, because of partners.

I kinda like this theory, and I am inclined to believe that this was the intention this time around, but the producers didn't take the opportunity to go in depth on the subject. AFAIK, Angemon is the only one to grapple with the issue in any meaningful way, though not in an orthodox manner (Re: Fallen vs. Non-fallen angels).

Speaking of rebirth, now I have a question regarding Anubimon's lore. How were the Dark Masters etc. reborn?

Does Ophanimon have an equivalent role to Anubimon (Re: A2020)?

 

[TMS]

The Dark Masters may not have been reborn so much as recreated by Apocalymon.

 

[Agent Z]

Willis eventually found his own team of Digidestined in America. He also gave his Terriermon to his little cousin, an inverse of Henry having Terriermon and Suzi having Lopmon.

 

[VanChizzle]

Willis eventually found his own team of Digidestined in America. He also gave his Terriermon to his little cousin, an inverse of Henry having Terriermon and Suzi having Lopmon.

He has a cousin??

 

[JR9386]

The Dark Masters may not have been reborn so much as recreated by Apocalymon.

So he repeatedly corrupted the same species of Digimon?

Honestly, I wish Digimon went more into the associated lore of Digitama, Primary Village, the Digimon Underworld, Hell, Heaven, the Fallen, etc.

I'm also particularly interested in the lore of those Digimon who were in a sense created in their Mega state that sustain areas of the Digital World. Obviously Tri made the case that there was a time when they did not exist, but I try to ignore that for the sake of internal logic and consistency.

 

[Notus]

I'm also particularly interested in the lore of those Digimon who were in a sense created in their Mega state that sustain areas of the Digital World. Obviously Tri made the case that there was a time when they did not exist, but I try to ignore that for the sake of internal logic and consistency.

I don't think that's such a stretch. A digimon could evolve alongside the ambient's development and with time intertwining with the ambient, becoming part of its essence.

In a more "computer" way, with the ambient system existing previously, the sustained digimon could be programed later with routines to passively repair/optmize/grow the system.

 

[Agent Z]

Willis eventually found his own team of Digidestined in America. He also gave his Terriermon to his little cousin, an inverse of Henry having Terriermon and Suzi having Lopmon.

He has a cousin??

In my headcanon, to clarify.

 

[TMS]

The Dark Masters may not have been reborn so much as recreated by Apocalymon.

So he repeatedly corrupted the same species of Digimon?

Possibly, but I was using “created” more literally, in the sense that they were born as Ultimates because of his power.

 

[Yamato-san]

I'm also particularly interested in the lore of those Digimon who were in a sense created in their Mega state that sustain areas of the Digital World. Obviously Tri made the case that there was a time when they did not exist, but I try to ignore that for the sake of internal logic and consistency.

I don't think that's such a stretch. A digimon could evolve alongside the ambient's development and with time intertwining with the ambient, becoming part of its essence.

In a more "computer" way, with the ambient system existing previously, the sustained digimon could be programed later with routines to passively repair/optmize/grow the system.

In X-Evolution, didn't Yggdrasil create the Death-X line by directly copying Dorugamon and using it as a base to go from there?

(You were talking about Digimon not needing to evolve to reach their current state, right?)

 

[JR9386]

I'm also particularly interested in the lore of those Digimon who were in a sense created in their Mega state that sustain areas of the Digital World. Obviously Tri made the case that there was a time when they did not exist, but I try to ignore that for the sake of internal logic and consistency.

I don't think that's such a stretch. A digimon could evolve alongside the ambient's development and with time intertwining with the ambient, becoming part of its essence.

In a more "computer" way, with the ambient system existing previously, the sustained digimon could be programed later with routines to passively repair/optmize/grow the system.

In X-Evolution, didn't Yggdrasil create the Death-X line by directly copying Dorugamon and using it as a base to go from there?

(You were talking about Digimon not needing to evolve to reach their current state, right?)

Correct.

It seems odd to me to have had the Sovereign Four as partner Digimon once upon a time. Well, not so much odd, just their being so insignificant in their pairings that it seems like an afterthought as opposed to how A2020 thought out the lore of the current pairings.

It seems like the original digidestined failed, but these are somehow the partner Digimon that we didn't acknowledge in 02? I realize the plot from Tri wasn't in the works when 02 was out, but there were much better ways to incorporate that into the lore.

But now this begs the question for me, and perhaps someone has a headcanon for this, but with Tapirmon's data recovered at the Reboot, and the Sovereigns, potentially, either foregoing the process, or being hardwired to revert to their final forms to fulfill those roles, does the same apply to the lost potential of Tapirmon? On the other hand, it was his data that presumably allowed them to achieve those forms, sorta, so without that event, what then?

 

[xm0c]

Sort of a real world theory I've had; when tri. was conceived/written, it was supposed to be a direct sequel to the original Adventure, i.e. it would have completely ignored the events of 02. tri. already has so little references to 02, so very little was probably changed from the original draft.

 

[TheMatrix]

Myotismon/Vandemon prior form is a Bakemon in Digimon adventure 1999, hench why he is surrounded by Bakemon in his Castle and unlike Gatomon and Demidevimon never mistreats them as he is one of them, just one step ahead. Also notice how much like Bakemon in prior episodes his only goal is to feed on others.

Also, I am awere that out of universe Myotismon/Vandemon was also surrounded by Bakemon in the Digimon 1997 game which is probably what inspirated them being his companions in the animated series.

 

[JR9386]

Sort of a real world theory I've had; when tri. was conceived/written, it was supposed to be a direct sequel to the original Adventure, i.e. it would have completely ignored the events of 02. tri. already has so little references to 02, so very little was probably changed from the original draft.

What do you make of the first team of original digidestined featured? It seems like they shoehorned in that plot at last minute too.

Speaking of 02, what exactly is the deal with the Imperialdramon featured? Is he in fact the 02 partner one? If so, what's the running theory on why they didn't hesitate to kill him off, but lost it when it came to Meicoomon?

Your theory has piqued my curiosity concerning 02 as conceived, and the plot of Tri...

I think that there is a possibility that after 02 aired, they had perhaps conceived of an alternate plot wherein the Oikawa/Maki plot was the central focus (We could even throw in the plot of Kizuna as well with Menoa!). Anyway...given my Narnia Series headcanon, I believe its possible that the Wish,Neverland, and Dark Ocean Realms could have all been featured as part of one realm. A realm which the a member (s?) of the original team partnered to Veemon, Hawkmon, Armadillomon, Wormmon (Morphomon?), and Tapirmon (?), would have attempted to gain access to the digital world anew to rekindle their lost bond to their partners/being unable to move on. Cody's father could have been featured as one of the deceased members of that original team, without Cody being featured as a digidestined. The Digimon Emperor either being the digital consciousness of a member that never managed to mentally leave the digital world, or the reconfigured form of a member of that original team. The twist? They were being manipulated by a greater force alla the White Witch (Arukenimon? ) did with Edmund (This actually reminds me a bit of the plot of Sailor Moon in particular Chaos as depicted through Wiseman and Wicked (Black) Lady, and Zirconia and Nehelenia. I could even see a plot where the entirety of the old team is brought back together (If you've seen W.I.T.C.H. season 2 with Nerissa's plot then you know!), building on Pharaoh 90/Galaxia plot (Perhaps a member of the original team falls ill and makes a deal in hopes of being healed/spared death in the digital world, another that feels their life has no purpose and uses the digital world to escape reality? I sort of like the idea of dark Digimon Emperors and Empresses ala Narnia ( Cardcaptor Sakura features a similar theme vis a vis, Eriol, Ruby Moon and Spinel Sun.) but would have settled for at least 2 for a less bloated plot. Heck, a world where Leomon serves as an Aslan-esque partner, or as an Aslan figure counter to the corrupting forces of Darkness in the digital world works for me too!

Not to toot my own horn, but I really think that THIS would have made for a more interesting sequel/film series!

 

[TMS]

I think you should start a fan fiction thread in Writing for stuff like that. It’s not a headcanon.

Edit:
Just to elaborate, a headcanon should not contradict known facts. It should be an extension using the facts as a foundation. If it “changes” the facts, it ceases to be headcanon and becomes AU fan fiction. I think, also, that real-world theories like xm0c’s don’t really count as headcanon either, because reality is… reality. In reality, either something is true or it isn’t.

 

[JR9386]

I think you should start a fan fiction thread in Writing for stuff like that. It’s not a headcanon.

Edit:
Just to elaborate, a headcanon should not contradict known facts. It should be an extension using the facts as a foundation. If it “changes” the facts, it ceases to be headcanon and becomes AU fan fiction. I think, also, that real-world theories like xm0c’s don’t really count as headcanon either, because reality is… reality. In reality, either something is true or it isn’t.

Fair enough. Is there a way to move, merge my post to the appropriate thread?

I suppose my "headcanon" lost amidst all of that, is that Tri/Kizuna was meant to act as corrective to the excesses of 02, and bring closure to the series as a whole, hence the introduction of Maki and Co. Since they couldn't insert Oikawa and Menoa into that original cast of Digi-5, Kizuna is the repetitive jumbled mess that it is. That's my headcanon. I honestly think that there is a lot of writer's remorse in the series.

 

[TMS]

You may simply want to quote or paste it in an appropriate thread. I would either start one dedicated to your ideas (which might be best), or post in this thread: https://withthewill.net/threads/your-digimon-story-ideas.27940/

 

[JR9386]

I recall KarnEX of YouTube once mentioning that Digimon Frontier was initially conceived of quite differently from the final product we ended up with. Some sort of gladiatorial series, or something to the effect. Anywho, I personally hold that once that idea was scrapped, Frontier was vaguely intended to function as a prequel to Adventure (sort of...), but one which dealt with the primordial beginnings of the digital world, digimon-human partnerships etc. Not so much fan-ficky, but the title (Frontier), and the premise of the show seem to hint at that possibility to me. It's also one of the few series that actually attempts to work with established lore (At least in so far as angelic digimon.) in its world building, which further solidifies that in my mind.

 

[Yamato-san]

It's also one of the few series that actually attempts to work with established lore (At least in so far as angelic digimon.) in its world building, which further solidifies that in my mind.

In what way? A vast majority of the focus Digimon were created specifically for Frontier itself, so you can't exactly call that "established" lore just because their profiles relate to exactly how they acted in the show. This is likely the case with Ofanimon and Lucemon as well, since they debuted in the Hyper Colosseum card game shortly before Frontier. Really, I think the only ones you can maybe make a case for are Seraphimon, whose profile mentions nothing of the Three Great Angels or anything else concerning its Frontier role, and both forms of Cherubimon, though I'm not sure how their pre-Frontier profiles describe them, if they even had profiles at all (up to that point, the Cherubimons were exclusively movie Digimon and weren't raisable in any V-pets). Hell, IceDevimon's profile is all of three sentences, and Tamers demonstrated a more accurate portrayal of it than what Frontier had.

 

[JR9386]

It's also one of the few series that actually attempts to work with established lore (At least in so far as angelic digimon.) in its world building, which further solidifies that in my mind.

In what way? A vast majority of the focus Digimon were created specifically for Frontier itself, so you can't exactly call that "established" lore just because their profiles relate to exactly how they acted in the show. This is likely the case with Ofanimon and Lucemon as well, since they debuted in the Hyper Colosseum card game shortly before Frontier. Really, I think the only ones you can maybe make a case for are Seraphimon, whose profile mentions nothing of the Three Great Angels or anything else concerning its Frontier role, and both forms of Cherubimon, though I'm not sure how their pre-Frontier profiles describe them, if they even had profiles at all (up to that point, the Cherubimons were exclusively movie Digimon and weren't raisable in any V-pets). Hell, IceDevimon's profile is all of three sentences, and Tamers demonstrated a more accurate portrayal of it than what Frontier had.

Frontier specific, or not, on a broader level, it dealt with the broader lore of the fallen angel digimon. This is why I headcanon that it was an attempt to address the genesis of the digital world. The problem with Frontier is that it tried to do too much at the same time. The 10 Legendary Warriors corresponding in some way to the different angelic choirs of later expanded lore.