What are your Digimon headcanons?

[TMS]

Seraphimon and Holydramon did appear as Takeru’s and Hikari’s Ultimate forms in various other media, yes, including the D-3 toy, Brave Tamer, and Battle Evolution.

 

[JR9386]

Seraphimon and Holydramon did appear as Takeru’s and Hikari’s Ultimate forms in various other media, yes, including the D-3 toy, Brave Tamer, and Battle Evolution.

Then what excluded them from being seen in the Wish Realm?

 

[TMS]

You’d have to ask the writers. Magnamon was missing too.

 

[Sparrow Hawk]

Convergent evolution...?

yeah, that's it. I couldn't think of the wording.
Have you noticed some examples in Digimon that seem like convergent evolution? Another example I have is Coronamon with both Liollmon and Flamemon

Yeah I think convertgent evolution in Digimon look like it belongs to Random Evolution topic because there are few evo pictures have Guilmon babies - Shoutmon - Tyranomon - MegaloGrowmon - Chaosdramon and DORUgremon replaced MegaloGrowmon for Guilmon to Megidramon, and Lucemon babies - Plotmon - Coordemon - Meicrackmon - LovelyAngemon, Aquilamon to Garudamon etc

Honestly I think Convergent evolution doesn't fit in because... Digicore's "Database" is loosely connecting to the evolution so a single digimon evolve to any then evolve to any and repeat and some digimon designs happen to look similar despite unrelated families in some other evolution lines. So I don't know how to answer that...

 

[Rimokon]

I think the reason Appmons are not shown in the greater Digimon canon is because they are somewhat a glorified Digital Lifeform--they have levels, and they can evolve somehow, but they aren't there yet. There is also the question of what happens if an Appmon 'dies' in general--is it gone forever? Will it be reborn as the same or as a different entity?

Another reason is that their data is 'malleable' to a point. They can easily app-fuse with others with their cable thingies, but they need a compatible Appmon to evolve to the next level.

The last reason that I can think of is that because they inhabit the 'human' side of the Net Ocean, for the lack of a better term, which is near the Dark Web--and by extension, the Dark Ocean (by a stretch). The Dark Ocean is another topic that the writers refuse to elaborate on.


Also (for me) it was a missed opportunity for the Appmons to be shown on the Net side of the Adventure 2020 canon.

 

[JR9386]

I have a headcanon sub-topic: are there any digimon who aren't related through evolution but seem to be related genetically due to being based on similar data? An easy example is Guardromon and Blimpmon.

I was thinking about this when noticing that Cutemon and Lunamon are both rabbits who seem to have similar overgrown sensory organs that allow them to hear over vast distances

Honestly I think Convergent evolution doesn't fit in because... Digicore's "Database" is loosely connecting to the evolution so a single digimon evolve to any then evolve to any and repeat and some digimon designs happen to look similar despite unrelated families in some other evolution lines. So I don't know how to answer that...

This can go either way. I suppose the question is why some Digimon look alike, but aren't related to one another.

Mademon is a variant of Terriermon, as is Gaomon of Gazimon. However, Angoramon and Labramon seem to be that bit of overlap between them. No reason to be honest, but superficially they appear to look alike.

For the longest time no one could convince be otherwise, but I always saw Gazimon as Gatomon's counterpart. I'd rather Gazimon be the base for the Cherubimon line. Lopmon just seems to be, by default, hardwired in most media to have the same evolution line culminating in Cherubimon. Aesthetically while it works, I've always seen Gazimon's eye liner lending itself to a jester line. Heck, maybe even a Magnadramon variant. Off topic, but worth mentioning.

Not that evolution lines work this way, but I believe there was more intended for the pink locks on Labramon. It's a feature carried over from his two In-Training forms. Unsure, but something shaggy with long hair.

 

[Hydranoid413]

Adventure Digimon have their destined partner that’s the human they’re most compatible with, but maybe they have other humans they can partner with who are less compatible?

like Agumon and Kari in the first movie, or Ryo and Agumon/Veemon/Monodramon in his games

Izzy, Willis, Mimi, Matt and Tai all have extra partners in D-1 Tamers

Spoiler: Extra text

DemiMeramon and Kunemon, Gazimon and Guardromon, Mushroomon and Monochromon, Leomon and Angemon, and Cyclomon and Triceramon respectively

(and most other humans in that game have three Digimon), which made me think of this

 

[JR9386]

Adventure Digimon have their destined partner that’s the human they’re most compatible with, but maybe they have other humans they can partner with who are less compatible?

like Agumon and Kari in the first movie, or Ryo and Agumon/Veemon/Monodramon in his games

Izzy, Willis, Mimi, Matt and Tai all have extra partners in D-1 Tamers

Spoiler: Extra text

DemiMeramon and Kunemon, Gazimon and Guardromon, Mushroomon and Monochromon, Leomon and Angemon, and Cyclomon and Triceramon respectively

(and most other humans in that game have three Digimon), which made me think of this

As much as I'd say that I was initially inclined to see A2020, the bits of what I saw disinclined me from viewing it as I suspect the series took a 360 due to constraints of the pandemic. I suspect the series was initially intended as its own reboot proper,potentially leading to a more robust series, as opposed to a mere tribute series.

But since you brought it up, I've wondered what to make of A2020 indicating that they had previously achieved higher evolutionary states without their partners in the past. Obviously that's been part of the lore since the original series with Gatomon, but that was an outlier. I've always taken that the children had a more direct influence on the course of the evolutionary line of their partners, but A2020 seems to go in a completely different direction, though that begs the question of why they couldn't permanently maintain those states, but Gatomon was able to do so at the Champion level. Previous partners perhaps?

 

[Notus]

They can't because

Spoiler: Adventure 2020

All of them, sans Seraphimon, died in the Ancient War, so they're actually in their (likely) second incanations.

 

[JR9386]

They can't because

Spoiler: Adventure 2020

All of them, sans Seraphimon, died in the Ancient War, so they're actually in their (likely) second incanations.

Please provide me with a bit more context.

They can't sustain higher forms, or what?

 

[TMS]

They had all died and lost their memories, so the forms they had achieved were no longer available to them. They’d been reset.

 

[Muur]

They had all died and lost their memories, so the forms they had achieved were no longer available to them. They’d been reset.

Which is inconsistent with Tri where the amnesia mons could still go mega.

Also, she got "reset" yet meow face still has Gatomon as default for no storyline reason.

 

[JR9386]

They had all died and lost their memories, so the forms they had achieved were no longer available to them. They’d been reset.

I think @Muur's response below articulates the issue with that.

They had all died and lost their memories, so the forms they had achieved were no longer available to them. They’d been reset.

Which is inconsistent with Tri where the amnesia mons could still go mega.

Also, she got "reset" yet meow face still has Gatomon as default for no storyline reason.

This is something that irked me about where A2020 went as the series progressed, at least what I vaguely followed of it.

Why should they follow the same evolutionary routes they achieved in the past sans partners? I get that the series ended up being a tribute series, and thus merchandise was at stake, but at least explain those mechanics in universe. It *does* make an argument for a fixed natural evolutionary progression, even if occasionally they depicted outliers to their standard lines. I'm not that much of a fan of the V Pets etc., but shouldn't the children have shaped the direction of the lines??

Why not Gomamon to Dolphmon?

 

[Eitaroutarouman]

Because status quo. These are the forms they're associated with, so that's what we're stuck with.

 

[TMS]

Presumably in both instances they simply followed their optimal evolution route.

 

[Drewuseless02]

Mine is that our reality is the default one with the v-pets amd the one V-Tamer takes place in.

 

[JR9386]

Because status quo. These are the forms they're associated with, so that's what we're stuck with.

Right. I get that. They were obliged not to deviate from the reissuing of anniversary merchandise. That's really the only justification for it.

Presumably in both instances they simply followed their optimal evolution route.

But doesn't that undermine the premise of the reboot as initially introduced?

I really do think the show was heading in a radically different direction. Why bother having partners if they've previously achieved these higher forms of their own accord and would eventually do so sans crests, partners etc. What really was at stake? What was the new revelation? Thats what I'd like a headcanon for. What changed this time around for the partner digimon now paired with children for the first (second? (!!!)) time?

 

[TMS]

But doesn't that undermine the premise of the reboot as initially introduced?

What would that be?

 

[JR9386]

But doesn't that undermine the premise of the reboot as initially introduced?

What would that be?

To my understanding, and I suppose this falls under a headcanon, the partner digimon were reawakened as the ancient evil that threatened the digital world was reborn.

Pretty straightforward.

However, as far as I know, we never get an explanation for why this particular set were chosen originally, whether they achieved these higher states on their own, via the aid of the Crests ala the Ancient Warriors (ie. The Warrior of Courage etc.), or if they had partners in the past. We just know that for whatever reason this set of digimon were special and set apart.

This time around, however, as humanity had made contact with their realm (Assuming digimon are not the creation of people, though that begs the question of how Salamon came to be amongst the Ancient Warriors if the digital world is older than humanity...), and thus this ancient evil also threatened the realm of men. As such, the partner digimon sought the aid of children to be partnered to to fight this battle this time around. But if that's the case, the children should have had a more profound effect on their evolutionary progress. Why Birddramon in place of Airdramon for Biyomon?

 

[Vande]

Yeah this is now getting off topic.