What are your Digimon headcanons?

[JR9386]

then maybe the Hope armors aren't constellations and are just mythological field animals?

Possibly, but the Crest of Hope is literally a shooting star, and as I see the Digieggs as precursors to the Human-Beast Spirits of Frontier, I like to think that they draw on their Guardian partner's essence. In this case, Seraphimon. Seraphimon is a celestial being.

The naming convention of "Sagittarimon" makes me think were aiming for constellations. But anyone's guess is as good as any. I will note, however that Pegasusmon has an attack akin to the Bronze Pegasus armor of Saint Seiya. They also happen to have a Bronze Armor for Rangifer Tarandus.

Goatmon works as the Hope Armors are related to constellations. Moosemon is the sole exception.

I always assumed the theme of Hope was hooved animals. All of them line up in that scenario, including Moosemon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Moosemon may also be based on a constellation, albeit one not currently included with the modern list.

That's fair, but note also the celestial themes, as well as the naming convention for Veemon with the Digiegg of Hope as Sagittarimon.

Goatmon = Capricorn
Sagittarimon = Sagittarius
Sheepmon = Aries
Pegasusmon = Pegasus
Bullmon = Taurus

Moosemon is the only one who presents a dilemma here, though I will note that stretching the imagery a bit would allow for it to be understood as a stag/deer, wherein the obsolete constellation of Rangifer is applicable. Curiously, the entry on Moosemon pertains to snow and the mountains, a theme which corresponds to the constellation of Pegasus/Orion as winter constellations.

Fair point, though I wished they could've used a different constellation as Moosemon seems to be the odd one out (take note that there is atleast one evolution that doesn't follow the motif for their respective digi-egg).

A previous poster also noted that the Hope armors are hooved animals, so either Camelopardalis or Equuleus, perhaps? Maybe Centaurus or Monoceros, but Centalmon, Unimon and ShimaUnimon already exists. Maybe Auriga, but that's a stretch, as Hawkmon's armors sometimes lead into humanoid forms (Rinkmon, Shurimon, and Harpymon), and Auriga is a charioteer, which usually uses horses to pull the chariot. Maybe turn it into something resembling Zanbamon, I guess.

It's a difficult one I admit. Cameloleopardus did cross my mind, especially the markings, but Rangifer Tarandus works quite well. Obscure, yes, but so is Pegasus. Orionmon or Andromedamon would be the odd ones out given his humanoid armor tendencies.

 

[shynely]

Pegasus is hardly obscure when the main character of a big name anime wears that. Conversely, it seems the reindeer armor is from Saint Seiya Online, which did not exist when they were making the Armor Digimon.

 

[Rimokon]

then maybe the Hope armors aren't constellations and are just mythological field animals?

I think the evolutions for the Digi-egg of Light are based on mythological creatures.

then maybe the Hope armors aren't constellations and are just mythological field animals?

Possibly, but the Crest of Hope is literally a shooting star, and as I see the Digieggs as precursors to the Human-Beast Spirits of Frontier, I like to think that they draw on their Guardian partner's essence. In this case, Seraphimon. Seraphimon is a celestial being.

The naming convention of "Sagittarimon" makes me think were aiming for constellations. But anyone's guess is as good as any. I will note, however that Pegasusmon has an attack akin to the Bronze Pegasus armor of Saint Seiya. They also happen to have a Bronze Armor for Rangifer Tarandus.

Goatmon works as the Hope Armors are related to constellations. Moosemon is the sole exception.

I always assumed the theme of Hope was hooved animals. All of them line up in that scenario, including Moosemon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Moosemon may also be based on a constellation, albeit one not currently included with the modern list.

That's fair, but note also the celestial themes, as well as the naming convention for Veemon with the Digiegg of Hope as Sagittarimon.

Goatmon = Capricorn
Sagittarimon = Sagittarius
Sheepmon = Aries
Pegasusmon = Pegasus
Bullmon = Taurus

Moosemon is the only one who presents a dilemma here, though I will note that stretching the imagery a bit would allow for it to be understood as a stag/deer, wherein the obsolete constellation of Rangifer is applicable. Curiously, the entry on Moosemon pertains to snow and the mountains, a theme which corresponds to the constellation of Pegasus/Orion as winter constellations.

Fair point, though I wished they could've used a different constellation as Moosemon seems to be the odd one out (take note that there is atleast one evolution that doesn't follow the motif for their respective digi-egg).

A previous poster also noted that the Hope armors are hooved animals, so either Camelopardalis or Equuleus, perhaps? Maybe Centaurus or Monoceros, but Centalmon, Unimon and ShimaUnimon already exists. Maybe Auriga, but that's a stretch, as Hawkmon's armors sometimes lead into humanoid forms (Rinkmon, Shurimon, and Harpymon), and Auriga is a charioteer, which usually uses horses to pull the chariot. Maybe turn it into something resembling Zanbamon, I guess.

It's a difficult one I admit. Cameloleopardus did cross my mind, especially the markings, but Rangifer Tarandus works quite well. Obscure, yes, but so is Pegasus. Orionmon or Andromedamon would be the odd ones out given his humanoid armor tendencies.

Agreed. I really wish they would release more constellation-themed digimons in the future.

 

[JR9386]

Pegasus is hardly obscure when the main character of a big name anime wears that. Conversely, it seems the reindeer armor is from Saint Seiya Online, which did not exist when they were making the Armor Digimon.

Contextually, I was speaking in regards to constellations.

Pegasus is not a constellation many think of, which is why Rangifer works in so far as constellation themed Armors.

My point in citing the Reindeer armor is to indicate that obscure as it might be, it nonetheless *is* a constellation proper. So is Cygnus, but I have other thoughts on where the Armor of Love is going.

I think the evolutions for the Digi-egg of Light are based on mythological creatures.

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Seahomon is apparently the Digimon ancestor of Seadramon. Which makes sense if you think of Seahomon as a Sea Dragon proper, though this makes me think back to something someone mentioned regarding Armadillomon's lower form being an allusion to an Axolotl. As much as I don't want to see it, I could see Armadillomon going in the Seadramon direction, but I headcanon Gusokumon as the more appropriate Ultimate if we're talking aquatic digimon.

 

[SuperStarlite]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

 

[Rimokon]

Pegasus is hardly obscure when the main character of a big name anime wears that. Conversely, it seems the reindeer armor is from Saint Seiya Online, which did not exist when they were making the Armor Digimon.

Contextually, I was speaking in regards to constellations.

Pegasus is not a constellation many think of, which is why Rangifer works in so far as constellation themed Armors.

My point in citing the Reindeer armor is to indicate that obscure as it might be, it nonetheless *is* a constellation proper. So is Cygnus, but I have other thoughts on where the Armor of Love is going.

I think the evolutions for the Digi-egg of Light are based on mythological creatures.

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Seahomon is apparently the Digimon ancestor of Seadramon. Which makes sense if you think of Seahomon as a Sea Dragon proper, though this makes me think back to something someone mentioned regarding Armadillomon's lower form being an allusion to an Axolotl. As much as I don't want to see it, I could see Armadillomon going in the Seadramon direction, but I headcanon Gusokumon as the more appropriate Ultimate if we're talking aquatic digimon.

From somewhere I read before, the basis for the Kingdra line in Pokemon is due to the "sea dragon" or "dragon child" legend. But I do agree with Gosukomon being a possible Ultimate level.

 

[shynely]

Pegasus is hardly obscure when the main character of a big name anime wears that. Conversely, it seems the reindeer armor is from Saint Seiya Online, which did not exist when they were making the Armor Digimon.

Contextually, I was speaking in regards to constellations.

I don't know how the actual story treats it, but the anime's opening has Seiya pose in front of a constellation with a picture of a pegasus around it, so anybody who watched it would've had some idea of a pegasus constellation.

My point in citing the Reindeer armor is to indicate that obscure as it might be, it nonetheless *is* a constellation proper.

What does "constellation proper" even mean? "It's not recognized by the International Astronomical Union, but it's in a spinoff game for some anime, so it's totally legit"? I'm not sure what you're actually trying to convey here, the content of Saint Seiya online can't explain anything about Digimon that existed long before it. Conversely, people working for Bandai and Toei circa 2000 would've been able to see the '80s Saint Seiya anime.

 

[JR9386]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Pegasus is hardly obscure when the main character of a big name anime wears that. Conversely, it seems the reindeer armor is from Saint Seiya Online, which did not exist when they were making the Armor Digimon.

Contextually, I was speaking in regards to constellations.

I don't know how the actual story treats it, but the anime's opening has Seiya pose in front of a constellation with a picture of a pegasus around it, so anybody who watched it would've had some idea of a pegasus constellation.

My point in citing the Reindeer armor is to indicate that obscure as it might be, it nonetheless *is* a constellation proper.

What does "constellation proper" even mean? "It's not recognized by the International Astronomical Union, but it's in a spinoff game for some anime, so it's totally legit"? I'm not sure what you're actually trying to convey here, the content of Saint Seiya online can't explain anything about Digimon that existed long before it. Conversely, people working for Bandai and Toei circa 2000 would've been able to see the '80s Saint Seiya anime.

Regarding the former, the average person thinks of the zodiac on regards to constellations. So again, contextually, I am speaking of constellations as a whole, and only tangentially brought up Saint Seiya regarding the inspiration for Armor evolutions as a whole.

As to the latter, I indicated a few responses above that the constellation is now obsolete, but as Saint Seiya nevertheless still employed a now obsolete body of stars for a character they created, that at most indicates that there are *some* familiar with that celestial body. So it is entirely possible that the creators of Digimon alluded to the same celestial body.

 

[shynely]

It sounds like you're jumping weirdly from a hypothetical "average person", that's somehow independent of location or time-specific context, to "the creators of Digimon", which would be a specific group of people who worked for specific companies at a specific time period, in a specific country. While I can't claim to know what reference material Bandai and Toei would've had in 1999 or 2000, whatever that's featured in a video game outsourced to a Chinese company years later isn't much of an indicator.

Sure, neither Rangifer nor Pegasus are part of the most well-known group of constellations, but they're not in the same league of obscurity, as there's certainly more exposure for one over the other across history. For an obvious example, Orion isn't in the zodiac either, but Orion's belt is a very well-known set of stars, so cultural exposure of constellations isn't this binary of "in the Zodiac" versus "obscure".

 

[JR9386]

It sounds like you're jumping weirdly from a hypothetical "average person", that's somehow independent of location or time-specific context, to "the creators of Digimon", which would be a specific group of people who worked for specific companies at a specific time period, in a specific country.

Sure, neither Rangifer nor Pegasus are part of the most well-known group of constellations, but they're not in the same league of obscurity, as there's certainly more exposure for one over the other across history. For an obvious example, Orion isn't in the zodiac either, but Orion's belt is a very well-known set of stars, so cultural exposure of constellations isn't this binary of "in the Zodiac" versus "obscure".

Part of the beauty of speaking in broad generalizations is that it accounts for those exceptions which do not negate the rule. You're nitpicking at this point over something which isn't worth doing so.

The creators of Digimon aside, and others who may be familiar with the constellations of Rangifer, Pegasus, Ursa Major, Cygnus etc. does not make the argument that the average person is privy to those details. Most people see the Hope armors as hooved creatures, which is fair. It may very well have been the intention of the creators of Digimon with the possible read of constellations being accidental. The same way I see Rasielmon,Raguelmon,etc. as being Wraths and other forms of Justice.

 

[SuperStarlite]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

 

[JR9386]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

 

[Yamato-san]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

 

[Lhikan634]

For what it's worth, there actually is a moose constellation in some cultures. We're just more familiar with it under the Greek name of Cassiopeia.

 

[JR9386]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

That I wasn't aware of, but in retrospect, I personally, wouldn't have a problem with them retconning Thunderbirdmon for Rinkmon. Doesn't Aquilamon have an entry related to Thunderbirds?

I suppose I'm a little salty that Hawkmon hadn't been created at the time that Garudamon was. I headcanon that evolution as a "natural progression" for the 02 Hawkmon, just as I do Hippogriffmon (Humanoid vs. Beast Forms). Getting off topic, but I'm not really so keen on Aquilamon as a Champion. In spite of all the objections to the contrary, the 02 Champions all look and feel like they follow the rules of Pokemon evolution. They're just slightly larger versions of their Rookies. I don't object to that, because I prefer a character specific species line (eg Greymon and Garurumon), but then some insist on the Jogress forms being natural progressions for them. Okay, I'm ranting, sorry...

Headcanon:

I think 02, or at most the partners, with the exception of TK and Kari were initially intended to have the origin story of the first class of Digidestined regarding the Four Sovereigns (Hawkmon > Zhuquaimon, Veemon > Azulongmon, Armadillomon (I'm okay with Kotemon/Ryudamon here...) > Ebonwumon, and Meicoomon (Wanyamon fits as a more natural progression to Meicoomon IMO) (or Bearmon) to Baihumon.) I'm a bit divided on Tapirmon becoming Huanglongmon as I personally headcanon him as a natural progression to Goldramon, but could see him becoming anything from Shakamon to Mitamamon.

In a retconned universe, Ken would have been paired with Lopmon/Tapirmon.

Ken is the Edmund Pevensie of the digidestined, incapable of activating his crest, which is why it remains Black in Kizuna. Writing this made me headcanon Ken possessing the Digieggs of Compassion and Justice as Golden Digieggs which lends itself to Shakamon being his partner.

Meiko unofficially is meant to represent Justice. This however bothers me a bit as she's really no different from Ken, with the exception of having a long haired and rabid Gatomon...

Digimon Adventure 02 was partially inspired by the Narnia series. This actually makes me wonder if the original intent of the ending of 02 was meant to have humans and Digimon living side by side in the Digital World.

Frontier is based on an unexplored alternate plot line within 02 regarding humanoid and beast evolutions, and the ancient line of now extinct Digimon.

02's core cast was intended to be the story of the original Digidestined in the digital world.

Ken and Oikawa were intended to be the same person. Ken was the portion of Oikawa that remained independent from him within the Digital World.

Joe and Mimi are end game for me.

For what it's worth, there actually is a moose constellation in some cultures. We're just more familiar with it under the Greek name of Cassiopeia.

I would've like to have seen something that fits the imagery of Andromeda and Cassiopeia.

I personally headcanon an armor evolution with the tag line "The beauty of the storm!"

 

[Yamato-san]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

That I wasn't aware of, but in retrospect, I personally, wouldn't have a problem with them retconning Thunderbirdmon for Rinkmon. Doesn't Aquilamon have an entry related to Thunderbirds?

I suppose I'm a little salty that Hawkmon hadn't been created at the time that Garudamon was. I headcanon that evolution as a "natural progression" for the 02 Hawkmon, just as I do Hippogriffmon (Humanoid vs. Beast Forms). Getting off topic, but I'm not really so keen on Aquilamon as a Champion. In spite of all the objections to the contrary, the 02 Champions all look and feel like they follow the rules of Pokemon evolution. They're just slightly larger versions of their Rookies. I don't object to that, because I prefer a character specific species line (eg Greymon and Garurumon), but then some insist on the Jogress forms being natural progressions for them. Okay, I'm ranting, sorry...

I mean, if you look back on the franchise starting from the original V-pets, you'd understand that, for the most part, "natural" evolution lines never particularly became a thing until the anime. I mean, some Digimon's profiles would make direct mention of an evolution to or from another Digimon, but more often than not, it seemed like they'd introduce new monsters and just place them wherever* (ex. SkullGreymon couldn't even evolve from Greymon when it was first introduced, but rather Kabuterimon, Angemon, and Birdramon). In fact, this is still technically the case to this day. While some evolution chains have certainly become more prominent than others, almost no piece of Digimon media (including some of the anime series) particularly sticks to any hard rules about what could evolve into what. And if you think about it, it only makes sense; being digital monsters, their evolution process is more or less just one big sequence of expanding and rewriting data, so it's perfectly conceivable that you could have something as "straight-forward" as Greymon into MetalGreymon, or something completely out there like Penmon into Meramon.

*EDIT: I guess that's not completely accurate. With the early V-pets, they'd make monsters and stick them to the same sets of attack sprites (something that breathes fire, something that punches with their fists, etc.). Still, it didn't seem like there was a particular emphasis on the evolutions making any logical sense with the designs given.

 

[Ricardolindo]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

That I wasn't aware of, but in retrospect, I personally, wouldn't have a problem with them retconning Thunderbirdmon for Rinkmon. Doesn't Aquilamon have an entry related to Thunderbirds?

I suppose I'm a little salty that Hawkmon hadn't been created at the time that Garudamon was. I headcanon that evolution as a "natural progression" for the 02 Hawkmon, just as I do Hippogriffmon (Humanoid vs. Beast Forms). Getting off topic, but I'm not really so keen on Aquilamon as a Champion. In spite of all the objections to the contrary, the 02 Champions all look and feel like they follow the rules of Pokemon evolution. They're just slightly larger versions of their Rookies. I don't object to that, because I prefer a character specific species line (eg Greymon and Garurumon), but then some insist on the Jogress forms being natural progressions for them. Okay, I'm ranting, sorry...

Headcanon:

I think 02, or at most the partners, with the exception of TK and Kari were initially intended to have the origin story of the first class of Digidestined regarding the Four Sovereigns (Hawkmon > Zhuquaimon, Veemon > Azulongmon, Armadillomon (I'm okay with Kotemon/Ryudamon here...) > Ebonwumon, and Meicoomon (Wanyamon fits as a more natural progression to Meicoomon IMO) (or Bearmon) to Baihumon.) I'm a bit divided on Tapirmon becoming Huanglongmon as I personally headcanon him as a natural progression to Goldramon, but could see him becoming anything from Shakamon to Mitamamon.

In a retconned universe, Ken would have been paired with Lopmon/Tapirmon.

Ken is the Edmund Pevensie of the digidestined, incapable of activating his crest, which is why it remains Black in Kizuna. Writing this made me headcanon Ken possessing the Digieggs of Compassion and Justice as Golden Digieggs which lends itself to Shakamon being his partner.

Meiko unofficially is meant to represent Justice. This however bothers me a bit as she's really no different from Ken, with the exception of having a long haired and rabid Gatomon...

Digimon Adventure 02 was partially inspired by the Narnia series. This actually makes me wonder if the original intent of the ending of 02 was meant to have humans and Digimon living side by side in the Digital World.

Frontier is based on an unexplored alternate plot line within 02 regarding humanoid and beast evolutions, and the ancient line of now extinct Digimon.

02's core cast was intended to be the story of the original Digidestined in the digital world.

Ken and Oikawa were intended to be the same person. Ken was the portion of Oikawa that remained independent from him within the Digital World.

Joe and Mimi are end game for me.

For what it's worth, there actually is a moose constellation in some cultures. We're just more familiar with it under the Greek name of Cassiopeia.

I would've like to have seen something that fits the imagery of Andromeda and Cassiopeia.

I personally headcanon an armor evolution with the tag line "The beauty of the storm!"

No offense, but I think that's a real stretch.

 

[JR9386]

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

That I wasn't aware of, but in retrospect, I personally, wouldn't have a problem with them retconning Thunderbirdmon for Rinkmon. Doesn't Aquilamon have an entry related to Thunderbirds?

I suppose I'm a little salty that Hawkmon hadn't been created at the time that Garudamon was. I headcanon that evolution as a "natural progression" for the 02 Hawkmon, just as I do Hippogriffmon (Humanoid vs. Beast Forms). Getting off topic, but I'm not really so keen on Aquilamon as a Champion. In spite of all the objections to the contrary, the 02 Champions all look and feel like they follow the rules of Pokemon evolution. They're just slightly larger versions of their Rookies. I don't object to that, because I prefer a character specific species line (eg Greymon and Garurumon), but then some insist on the Jogress forms being natural progressions for them. Okay, I'm ranting, sorry...

Headcanon:

I think 02, or at most the partners, with the exception of TK and Kari were initially intended to have the origin story of the first class of Digidestined regarding the Four Sovereigns (Hawkmon > Zhuquaimon, Veemon > Azulongmon, Armadillomon (I'm okay with Kotemon/Ryudamon here...) > Ebonwumon, and Meicoomon (Wanyamon fits as a more natural progression to Meicoomon IMO) (or Bearmon) to Baihumon.) I'm a bit divided on Tapirmon becoming Huanglongmon as I personally headcanon him as a natural progression to Goldramon, but could see him becoming anything from Shakamon to Mitamamon.

In a retconned universe, Ken would have been paired with Lopmon/Tapirmon.

Ken is the Edmund Pevensie of the digidestined, incapable of activating his crest, which is why it remains Black in Kizuna. Writing this made me headcanon Ken possessing the Digieggs of Compassion and Justice as Golden Digieggs which lends itself to Shakamon being his partner.

Meiko unofficially is meant to represent Justice. This however bothers me a bit as she's really no different from Ken, with the exception of having a long haired and rabid Gatomon...

Digimon Adventure 02 was partially inspired by the Narnia series. This actually makes me wonder if the original intent of the ending of 02 was meant to have humans and Digimon living side by side in the Digital World.

Frontier is based on an unexplored alternate plot line within 02 regarding humanoid and beast evolutions, and the ancient line of now extinct Digimon.

02's core cast was intended to be the story of the original Digidestined in the digital world.

Ken and Oikawa were intended to be the same person. Ken was the portion of Oikawa that remained independent from him within the Digital World.

Joe and Mimi are end game for me.

For what it's worth, there actually is a moose constellation in some cultures. We're just more familiar with it under the Greek name of Cassiopeia.

I would've like to have seen something that fits the imagery of Andromeda and Cassiopeia.

I personally headcanon an armor evolution with the tag line "The beauty of the storm!"

No offense, but I think that's a real stretch.

What's a stretch?

You quoted a whole block of text, but didn't specify what.

With the exception of Manbomon. :-/

Manbomon is designed after an ocean sunfish, which apparently was considered a sacred animal by some Polynesian cultures.

Gargoyle, Harpy, Quetzacoatl, Sphinx, Sea Dragon, Mola?

I haven't found anything significant on the Mola in Polynesian culture.

Lore | Ocean Sunfish

oceansunfish.org

This website has a section on the ocean sunfish’s place in various cultures.

Thank you for this.

I see that it has cultural significance, but nothing significant if that makes sense.

In spite of her standard line being Holy, most of the Digiegg Armors of Light are quite dark in their mythology.

Tangentially, I'm upset that Hawkmon doesn't digivolve into Thunderbirdmon, but instead Rinkmon.

That's mainly because Thunderbirmon wouldn't exist until a couple years later. Thunderbirmon (along with FlaWizarmon, Salamandamon, and Kenkimon, all of whom use either the Courage or Friendship Digimentals) came from an odd set of new Armor Digimon introduced in the Hyper Colosseum card game around the time Frontier started airing...... and then they never really touched upon Armor Digimon ever since (lest you count an X-Antibody form here and there).

That I wasn't aware of, but in retrospect, I personally, wouldn't have a problem with them retconning Thunderbirdmon for Rinkmon. Doesn't Aquilamon have an entry related to Thunderbirds?

I suppose I'm a little salty that Hawkmon hadn't been created at the time that Garudamon was. I headcanon that evolution as a "natural progression" for the 02 Hawkmon, just as I do Hippogriffmon (Humanoid vs. Beast Forms). Getting off topic, but I'm not really so keen on Aquilamon as a Champion. In spite of all the objections to the contrary, the 02 Champions all look and feel like they follow the rules of Pokemon evolution. They're just slightly larger versions of their Rookies. I don't object to that, because I prefer a character specific species line (eg Greymon and Garurumon), but then some insist on the Jogress forms being natural progressions for them. Okay, I'm ranting, sorry...

I mean, if you look back on the franchise starting from the original V-pets, you'd understand that, for the most part, "natural" evolution lines never particularly became a thing until the anime. I mean, some Digimon's profiles would make direct mention of an evolution to or from another Digimon, but more often than not, it seemed like they'd introduce new monsters and just place them wherever* (ex. SkullGreymon couldn't even evolve from Greymon when it was first introduced, but rather Kabuterimon, Angemon, and Birdramon). In fact, this is still technically the case to this day. While some evolution chains have certainly become more prominent than others, almost no piece of Digimon media (including some of the anime series) particularly sticks to any hard rules about what could evolve into what. And if you think about it, it only makes sense; being digital monsters, their evolution process is more or less just one big sequence of expanding and rewriting data, so it's perfectly conceivable that you could have something as "straight-forward" as Greymon into MetalGreymon, or something completely out there like Penmon into Meramon.

*EDIT: I guess that's not completely accurate. With the early V-pets, they'd make monsters and stick them to the same sets of attack sprites (something that breathes fire, something that punches with their fists, etc.). Still, it didn't seem like there was a particular emphasis on the evolutions making any logical sense with the designs given.

I think something that hurt the franchise was the continual addition of new digital monsters. After a while they ceased being simple creatures and the complexity in designs just went overboard.

To me, Digimon was more grungelike, which is why Unimon in spite of being based on a unicorn is somewhat unsettling in appearance.

I think as a limited series without the ever expanding canon of monsters ala Pokemon would have worked, but once they overcomplicated the designs and lore, it spiraled out of control. At this point, digimon should just be able to breed and be done with it. I'm still bothered by actual human digimon (eg. Sistermon etc.). I'm sure that they've toyed with the idea of a human-digimon romance, but I'm sure that wouldn't go over well with young audiences.

 

[Mr_Web]

I know this is not related to the current topic, but I have one major headcanon that's just stupid.

Gankoomon, Huckmon, and all the Sistermon are all one adopted family. Gankoomon keeps finding children and keeps saying "This one is mine now."

 

[Bancho]

Gankoomon, Huckmon, and all the Sistermon are all one adopted family. Gankoomon keeps finding children and keeps saying "This one is mine now."

to add to this, I've headcanoned for a while that Bancho Leomon was once mentored by Gankoomon.

At first this was an unsupported headcanon but a Korean Digimon fan pointed out to me the other day that concept art for Bancho Leomon had "Royal Knights" written by it which this fan thinks meant Bancho was intended to be a Royal Knights member. If true, it would have me think he was replaced with Gankoomon as a Royal Knights member due to their similar designs. But as far as I know, that sketch note could mean anything.

Another thing I found recently was this cutscene from Cyber Sleuth that feeds into my headcanon by showing Gankoomon and Bancho Leomon as friends and Bancho Leomon assisting in training Huckmon (skip the combat to watch the opening and closing cutscenes)

Spoiler: Huckmon's Evolution in Cyber Sleuth