Vital Bracelet BE Digimon 25th Anniversary Set- Info, Images, & Pre-Order Details- New Digimon- ShinMonzaemon!

[Bancho]

I don't get why Sparrow Hawk saying that they're curious about the design philosophy behind the pattern and color used for ShinMonzaemon's ooze is being treated as an out there statement? It reminds them of outer space which is a reasonable statement because it looks like outer space lmao.
Yeah, we all know it alludes to Numemon, that's not what is being questioned as Sparrow Hawk was asking about the design of the ooze itself. That alone isn't relevant to bring up unless it leads to something relevant.
It could be a reference to sparkly slime toys or a weird and frankly unlikely reference to Wizardmon and Angewomon's wireframes or it could indeed be alluding to space but my issue is presenting conclusions we jumped to like it's the defacto answer when all Sparrow Hawk said is that they wish to see the franchise explain it or a designer comment on their mindset behind it which is the most reasonable way to view things?

 

[RogueX4]

May I ask why Vademon? All I see those comments pointing at Vademon getting a new evo even after already owned EBEmon?

Simple Vademon is the only Ver. 2 Perfect/Ultimate stage Digimon without an Ultimate/Mega evolution in the Ver20th. IF (since this is all hypothetical) we do get a Ver. 2 25th, realistically speaking, Vademon will probably go to Ebemon. However IF they wish to give new evos to each of the non evolving Perfect level Digimon from the Ver 20th then Vademon would get one. It’s not impossible and wouldn’t contradict any lore either. In the end it’s up to them.

If it was up to me I’d give Skullgreymon another evo

 

[Noni]

I don't get why Sparrow Hawk saying that they're curious about the design philosophy behind the pattern and color used for ShinMonzaemon's ooze is being treated as an out there statement? It reminds them of outer space which is a reasonable statement because it looks like outer space lmao.
Yeah, we all know it alludes to Numemon, that's not what is being questioned as Sparrow Hawk was asking about the design of the ooze itself. That alone isn't relevant to bring up unless it leads to something relevant.
It could be a reference to sparkly slime toys or a weird and frankly unlikely reference to Wizardmon and Angewomon's wireframes or it could indeed be alluding to space but my issue is presenting conclusions we jumped to like it's the defacto answer when all Sparrow Hawk said is that they wish to see the franchise explain it or a designer comment on their mindset behind it which is the most reasonable way to view things?

In my case, as I mentioned in my post, I find wondering and being curious about it comprehensible. I am too, I just wanted to address the idea that the concept of the "galaxy goo" and it "taking over" the Monzaemon design is somehow too incomprehensible or strange for a Monzaemon evolution to the point of warranting a specific explanation. When to me there are several already established reasons for this aesthetic choice to be there.

Sure I would like to know more about it, I'm on the same page. It just didn't strike me as that strange or unusual of a design choice. So at least in the case of my replies I wanted to express that. I can't speak for the reaction or intent of the others, tho. I do want to know more, and I can't wait to see what the profile has to tell about ShinMonzaemon, I think we are on the same page about that.

I hope my tone comes across more clearly in this post.

 

[CloneWarrior]

Nanomon and Giromon might get them literally only on the premise that there aren't a lot of Machines they could realistically become, I think the closest thing for Nanomon is Mugendramon (Giromon at least has Hiandromon since it's Vaccine, so maybe that.) and that seems really of.

As for Piccolomon, they could go full meme and reference BT-5 and make it either Bancholilymon or Rosemon. Putting another Bancho in would make sense at least. Piccolomon also has the issue that a lot of things that could theoretically be followups to it... if only it weren't Data.

Not all of the Ultimates added in the Ver. 20th match attribute-wise.

SkullGreymon (Virus) - SkullMammon (Vaccine)
Megadramon (Virus) - Aegisdramon (Vaccine)
Digitamamon (Data) - Titamon (Virus)
Ex-Tyranomon (Vaccine) - Pinochimon (Virus)

 

[Sparrow Hawk]

Ahh I see it makes sense. Can we include other possibilities besides Vademon and SkullGreymon?

I think the Digimon Reference Book finally got to update from huge delays. So I can't wait to see ShinMonzaemon's profile...

 

[Yamato-san]

Giromon, Piccolomon and Nanomon could warrant new Ultimates.

Nanomon and Giromon might get them literally only on the premise that there aren't a lot of Machines they could realistically become, I think the closest thing for Nanomon is Mugendramon (Giromon at least has Hiandromon since it's Vaccine, so maybe that.) and that seems really of.

As for Piccolomon, they could go full meme and reference BT-5 and make it either Bancholilymon or Rosemon. Putting another Bancho in would make sense at least. Piccolomon also has the issue that a lot of things that could theoretically be followups to it... if only it weren't Data.

I remember when Digimon World 2 had Giromon (and Andromon, for that matter) be part of Angemon's line, allowing for both of them to become Seraphimon. I guess the idea of Vaccine robos becoming a 10-winged suit of armor isn't TOO out there, but it mostly felt like a case of not knowing where to put these guys, especially because 1) DW2 was, for the most part, pretty strict about having evolution chains stick to a single attribute (owing in large part to the Guard Team system), and 2) HiAndromon wasn't available (I think he already existed in the D-3s, though I'm guessing V-mon and its evolutions were just last-minute additions to promote the new 02 anime at the time and they didn't have any time to include any other Digimon featured in it). Come to think of it, pretty much half of Metal Empire was strangely absent in that game as well (I'm not even talking Ver. 5.5, but even the Ver. 5 guys were missing), which also led to oddities like ToyAgumon and ClearAgumon also being part of the Angemon line, rather than letting them become something like Revolmon.

May I ask why Vademon? All I see those comments pointing at Vademon getting a new evo even after already owned EBEmon?

Simple Vademon is the only Ver. 2 Perfect/Ultimate stage Digimon without an Ultimate/Mega evolution in the Ver20th. IF (since this is all hypothetical) we do get a Ver. 2 25th, realistically speaking, Vademon will probably go to Ebemon. However IF they wish to give new evos to each of the non evolving Perfect level Digimon from the Ver 20th then Vademon would get one. It’s not impossible and wouldn’t contradict any lore either. In the end it’s up to them.

If it was up to me I’d give Skullgreymon another evo

This! So much this! Seriously, despite how much the entire franchise seems to devote itself to the Greymon family in general, SkullGreymon just comes off as that unloved bastard child. I'd be all for giving it a proper Ultimate form to help round it off (Digimon World 3 did have it evolve to BlackWarGreymon, though that was also an odd choice considering that the Wonderswan games were already using OG MetalGreymon as BWG's Perfect form).

Incidentally, one of the only fanmade Digimon ideas I've ever come up with is a SkullGreymon evolution. Its name would be Gravemon (such a workable pun on the Greymon line that I really hope they don't end up wasting on some completely unrelated Digimon).

 

[Unknown Neo]

Well this is a surprise. Didn't expect an evo but that is a nice colored band. This is a fun idea.

 

[Sparrow Hawk]

I don't get why Sparrow Hawk saying that they're curious about the design philosophy behind the pattern and color used for ShinMonzaemon's ooze is being treated as an out there statement? It reminds them of outer space which is a reasonable statement because it looks like outer space lmao.
Yeah, we all know it alludes to Numemon, that's not what is being questioned as Sparrow Hawk was asking about the design of the ooze itself. That alone isn't relevant to bring up unless it leads to something relevant.
It could be a reference to sparkly slime toys or a weird and frankly unlikely reference to Wizardmon and Angewomon's wireframes or it could indeed be alluding to space but my issue is presenting conclusions we jumped to like it's the defacto answer when all Sparrow Hawk said is that they wish to see the franchise explain it or a designer comment on their mindset behind it which is the most reasonable way to view things?

In my case, as I mentioned in my post, I find wondering and being curious about it comprehensible. I am too, I just wanted to address the idea that the concept of the "galaxy goo" and it "taking over" the Monzaemon design is somehow too incomprehensible or strange for a Monzaemon evolution to the point of warranting a specific explanation. When to me there are several already established reasons for this aesthetic choice to be there.

Sure I would like to know more about it, I'm on the same page. It just didn't strike me as that strange or unusual of a design choice. So at least in the case of my replies I wanted to express that. I can't speak for the reaction or intent of the others, tho. I do want to know more, and I can't wait to see what the profile has to tell about ShinMonzaemon, I think we are on the same page about that.

I hope my tone comes across more clearly in this post.

Don't worry, your tone really doesn't matter.

I wonder if this pattern could continue to reveal the next new evo form due to ShinMonzaemon revealed instead of the usual "the new whole evo line" with the main character vibes. It seemed Vital Bracelet series is still continuing instead of releasing any future games.

 

[Mattman324]

1) DW2 was, for the most part, pretty strict about having evolution chains stick to a single attribute (owing in large part to the Guard Team system)

Also because of how it interacts with the Jogress system in the coding. You usually need at least 6 DP but more often 8 DP to switch from one Jogress Type to another, barring Yanmamon that has no pre-evolution and folds into another line and Zudomon's evolution reading like someone mixed an order up somwhere.

 

[Tarama]

Don't worry, your tone really doesn't matter.

I wonder if this pattern could continue to reveal the next new evo form due to ShinMonzaemon revealed instead of the usual "the new whole evo line" with the main character vibes. It seemed Vital Bracelet series is still continuing instead of releasing any future games.

I'm sorry if my wording is bad. But I didn't mean that way. Sometimes text without intonation can sound bad depending on interpretations.