Vital Bracelet BE Digimon 25th Anniversary Set- Info, Images, & Pre-Order Details- New Digimon- ShinMonzaemon!

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If we were to stick with the Ver. 20th additions, the other Perfects missing Ultimates are Vademon, Giromon, Piccolomon and Nanomon.
 

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Agreed. ShinMonzaemon's brown fur for Monzaemon and the mysterious galaxy goo and the glowing eye for WaruMonzaemon if jogressed. But still... That galaxy goo doesn't make sense... I hope the profile will explain that.
Uh, it's the Numemon. The Numemon that's inside Monzaemon. You know, the thing made of slime?

That's also probably where the wings came from since Numemon tend to be winged at the Ultimate level.
Out of the many perfect Digimon that needs an evolution, they give it Monzaemon, they could've just used Platinum/GoldNumemon here.
I'd rather have a new evolution for Mamemon so we have 4 perfect Mamemon and 4 ultimate Mamemon.
"i'd rather have the thing with 3 ultimates get a new one rather than the ones with 0" ok.
You literally just said that a Numemon is inside Monzaemon, so an ultimate level Numemon would make sense, so it's not 0. We have 2 of them.
 

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I did always find it ironic that the original "strongest" Digimon never got an explicit Ultimate evolution before...... and come to think of it, with the exception of ExTyranomon, all of its contemporaries throughout the Digital Monster series did get their own Ultimates (Vademon>Ebemon, Etemon>MetalEtemon and later KingEtemon, Digitamamon>Devitamamon and the unreleased HolyDigitamamon).

I think the closest thing it ever had was GigaWaruMonzaemon (which really just seems like an oversized WaruMonzaemon rather than having any of vanilla Monzaemon's traits, and chef wear that may or may not count as part of the Digimon itself...... so, you know, typical Xros Wars wierdness). But better late than never.
 

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Maybe theyll finally give tyrannomon's data line a mega. Master Tyrannomon is feeling kinda lonely.
I want them to just solidify DinoRexmon as its mega already. It's perfect for what I want in a Tyrannomon mega: a data attribute T-Rex that never took the cybernetic route. It even has the MasterTyrannomon chest scar

If we were to stick with the Ver. 20th additions, the other Perfects missing Ultimates are Vademon, Giromon, Piccolomon and Nanomon.

Vademon has Ebemon.
I don't think they mean we need digimon newly created for those listed digimon, but that they currently are fully evolved at Perfect in the Digital Monster v-pets and that continuing the trend would be to officially pair up these specific digimon to a mega within a spiritual successor to the Digital Monster line of toys
 
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I don't think they mean we need digimon newly created for those listed digimon, but that they currently are fully evolved at Perfect in the Digital Monster v-pets and that continuing the trend would be to officially pair up these specific digimon to a mega within a spiritual successor to the Digital Monster line of toys

This is indeed what I meant. I figure EBEmon would be the most likely choice for Vademon, but Giromon, Piccolomon and Nanomon could warrant new Ultimates.
 

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Finally, Monzaemon's own mega and its awesome they put Pulsemon line on 25th anniversary VB, is this the only new Digimon they have plan for this?
 

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You literally just said that a Numemon is inside Monzaemon, so an ultimate level Numemon would make sense, so it's not 0. We have 2 of them.
That's a connection that needs context. If Numemon is Mozaemon's Adult, sure it works. But if it's, let's say, Yukidarumon, the Numemon connection doesn't work as well. It's similar to Zudomon -> Plesiomon, which is a lot smoother in the context of a Gomamon Ultimate than a straight evolution, where Vikemon works better.
 

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I really like ShinMonzaemon. Returning elements from the X-antibody form make me happy, and also make sense, since the X-antibody is simply putting out data that was sleeping deep in the digicore and was "awakened", right? So it just works really well. It also looks like a mix of both cool, cute and silly. I'm very happy.

About the evolution discussion, it seemed clear to me the others were talking about how ShinMonzaemon is a thematic evolution that continues the visual and themes established by the Monzaemon. In which in that case there were indeed no evolutions for it.
 

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I would say "poor BanchoMamemon" because he's the only one of the 3 who can't fly but luckily I had already headcanoned him as swinging through the city on his chains just like Spider-man in order to get around which I think is way more cool.
I wonder if the reference book will bring up why ShinMonzaemon has wings. I wonder if it's really a PlatinumNumemon reference?
 

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I like Shin Monzaemon and am thrilled that we finally have an Ultimate puppet for someone that isn’t Etemon. I do wish the colors were black and yellow though so it was more clearly a jogress between Monzaemon and Waru Monzaemon which is clearly what they were going for. I also like it better than Marsmon or Callismon or Baihumon as an ultimate for Bearmon.
 
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Uh, it's the Numemon. The Numemon that's inside Monzaemon. You know, the thing made of slime?

That's also probably where the wings came from since Numemon tend to be winged at the Ultimate level.

Yeah didn't you read my post about mentioning Monzaemon X?

I was trying to say about this galaxy that never make sense to me because the celestial beings or space creatures (any cards from other anime/manga) have galaxy on them as clothes or cosmic skins. That's why I was confused as how this digital creature obtained the data of the galaxy or ascended to the heaven space or what?

In short words... This ShinMonzaemon is not Monzaemon species as the galaxy goo outgrew the whole teddy bear plushie and wears it as the dress rather than inside the puppet suit. 100% Numemon/Galaxy goo and 0% Monzaemon despite "Shin" in its name, being 0% which I viewed it because it clearly is simply... wearing the "husk" plushie aka the "hat", "gloves" and barely covering the bottom body. Like... Entmon.
 

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The space/galaxy thing in ShinMonzaemon isn't the first time. Some digimon have their wireframe look like this. Angewomon, Wizarmon, GreatKingSukamon for example have their space/galaxy wireframe, we can see that in their profile arts.
So ShinMonzaemon isn't the first digimon to have this. It's just that ShinMonzaemon has it mixed with the goo that presumably brought by Numemon's data inside Monzaemon, since Monzaemon in DM, DM 20th, and VB BE 25th is the Numemon who evolved.
 

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Uh, it's the Numemon. The Numemon that's inside Monzaemon. You know, the thing made of slime?

That's also probably where the wings came from since Numemon tend to be winged at the Ultimate level.

Yeah didn't you read my post about mentioning Monzaemon X?

I was trying to say about this galaxy that never make sense to me because the celestial beings or space creatures (any cards from other anime/manga) have galaxy on them as clothes or cosmic skins. That's why I was confused as how this digital creature obtained the data of the galaxy or ascended to the heaven space or what?

In short words... This ShinMonzaemon is not Monzaemon species as the galaxy goo outgrew the whole teddy bear plushie and wears it as the dress rather than inside the puppet suit. 100% Numemon/Galaxy goo and 0% Monzaemon despite "Shin" in its name, being 0% which I viewed it because it clearly is simply... wearing the "husk" plushie aka the "hat", "gloves" and barely covering the bottom body. Like... Entmon.
Personally, I just interpreted it as an aesthetic choice. Since Numemon is a slime and there is an entire aesthetic/culture of stimming slimes that are sparkly and colorful online. In fact videos of people playing with these is considered very soothing by some people, and is definitely something that I could see rubbing off into digimon design.

About the slime taking more space of the design than before, well...there could be several explanations about it? Monzaemon X, for example, is overflowing with it's gel due to it being a representation of all the love it holds inside itself. Besides, is possible Numemon might feel less need to hide inside the suit in this form. It could be posited as a creature that embraced more of it's own nature.

I don't think there is anything wrong with wondering why some design elements are there, but a design choice is not inherently inscrutable just because it doesn't make itself self-evident/obvious from a first look.

We should wait for the profile anyway, but even if it doesn't answer these questions I don't see it as puzzling of a detail.
 

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Well even if the profile turns out as it didn't explain about this galaxy goo skin, then we could wait for twitter concept arts that comes with some explanation arrows that might give us idea of why it's designed to be like that.
 

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Well even if the profile turns out as it didn't explain about this galaxy goo skin, then we could wait for twitter concept arts that comes with some explanation arrows that might give us idea of why it's designed to be like that.
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I know it's Digimon evolution logic but I just only got bothered by this galaxy goo skin thingy implying... It's some kind of cosmic creature. Don't worry it's only just me and my personal viewpoints...

And that is not true. Remember the new Pendulum Z Digimon ones didn't get criticized after all?
 

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Giromon, Piccolomon and Nanomon could warrant new Ultimates.
Nanomon and Giromon might get them literally only on the premise that there aren't a lot of Machines they could realistically become, I think the closest thing for Nanomon is Mugendramon (Giromon at least has Hiandromon since it's Vaccine, so maybe that.) and that seems really of.

As for Piccolomon, they could go full meme and reference BT-5 and make it either Bancholilymon or Rosemon. Putting another Bancho in would make sense at least. Piccolomon also has the issue that a lot of things that could theoretically be followups to it... if only it weren't Data.
 

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I don’t find anything wrong with Shinmonzeamon’s goo being purple. The concepts the color brought to my mind were Darkness and Toxicness (both elements atributed to Warumonzeamon and Numemon). It never brought galaxy and cosmic themes to my mind. Has his official bio been dropped?

Besides one of the things I love about Digimon designs and their evolutions is how open they are. I like the idea of a Numemon mutating while inside the Monzeamon suit and turning into ShinMonzeamon. I also see this evo suitable for Warumonzeamon too and love how it borrows ideas from Monzeamon X, but makes it’s design it’s own.

I hope we get Ver 25th BE DIM’s for the ver. 2 - 5. As others have mentioned now is the perfect time for Giromon, Pixiemon, and Nanomon to gain an ultimate/mega stage. Maybe a ver 6 could be possible? (If I’m not mistaken it was included in one of the Digifest posters. The one with all the original Vpets).

Personally I feel they shot version 2 in the foot when they decided to give Skullgreymon Skullmamothmon as an evo… talk about a missed opportunity.

Edit: I’ve been thinking maybe Vademon could get a new evo if there’s a Ver.2 25th BE? Etemon has two (Metaletemon and Kingetemon) maybe the same could occur to Vademon (Ebemon and a new Digimon)?
 
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May I ask why Vademon? All I see those comments pointing at Vademon getting a new evo even after already owned EBEmon?
 
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