Unpopular opinions and rants about the Digimon franchize.

[JR9386]

I wrote this elsewhere, but here goes...

Honestly, while Lopmon is "cute", I dislike it being shoehorned as a default line for Cherubimon in practically every incarnation of the franchise. Sure, the same could be said for Salamon and Patamon, but Lopmon seems like a natural pair to Terriermon, that gets forced into the Holy Angel family of Digimon. While this is just Tamers specific, SaintGargomon, while probably inspired by a Saint Bernard (dog), seems like a quasi tie-in to Cherubimon. I'd honestly rather him than SlashAngemon, but that's another story.

 

[DigiKing Tamer]

While I actually like Zubamon, it seems like 90% of the fanbase is out to get him and his Digivolution line. (Not that I can't see why though.) I just hope that the 25th anniversary Digimon doesn't suffer the same fate.

 

[Bancho]

While I actually like Zubamon, it seems like 90% of the fanbase is out to get him and his Digivolution line. (Not that I can't see why though.) I just hope that the 25th anniversary Digimon doesn't suffer the same fate.

I see Zubamon's evolution line to be strictly worse than Hackmon's aesthetically. Durandamon and Jesmon are both trying to be anniversary sword dragons but why was Jesmon made first and look tons better? I like Zubamon and yellow is my favorite color but god Durandamon looks silly when it's trying to look cool

 

[Vande]

Removed a couple of posts and sent the 2020 one to the relevant thread. No rules were broken just advising what happened.

 

[miru]

Ver.4 does have a lot of odd ones, but I can't say all of it is unprecedented. Cockatrimon, especially, is brought up in Piyomon's profile as a potential evolution (ironically, even Piyomon's original Digital Monster profile brings up its potential evolution to Birdramon, even though that wasn't available to it due to being introduced earlier in Ver.2). Coelamon's arms seem rather reminiscent of Palmon's, while the tuft on top of Mojyamon's head seems like a callback to Palmon's flower. And I could probably see Kuwagamon relating to both Piyomon due to the two of them being winged, and to Palmon because of the close relationship plants and insects seem to share in Digimon, often being put in the same "nature" category (also, I can't help picturing this image of a bug pollinating Palmon's head only to gain its consciousness and power.... incidentally, the Palmon>Kuwagamon evolution did get used again at least as recently as Cyber Sleuth).

I suppose. I still think ver 4 was mostly made up of "leftovers" before they moved onto the more thematic designs of the Pendulum series (and that ver 5 was a canceled Godzilla licensed product they re-did the art for at the last second).

In some ways, Piyomon and Palmon's inclusion Ver 4 seemed like a half-hearted attempt to see if the Digimon franchise had potential gender crossover appeal (as Tamagotchi did for a brief moment) - but they only did Child forms and were too wary of making all of the Ver 4 Digimon girl-appeal characters.

That might even be why Nanimon and DigiTamamon are the hidden characters in Ver 4.

Hmm… could this mean Tailmon, Angewomon, LadyDevimon, and Holydramon (possibly even Syakomon) were designed for the Version 4 before being moved to S due to being too wary of feminine appeal on a mainline release?

 

[Kotekuma]

So I don't know if this came to mind because the last card game set or so has been so god damn boring with its artwork, but I miss fields. In Hyper Colosseum, it's actually pretty neat how they managed to incorporate each of the different Pendulums (plus some originals like Unknown and Dark Area) AND convey them through a simple background (though they'd later start to include emblems). Incidentally, I wonder if we could've gotten new fields introduced through the Vital Bracelet. Impulse City seems like it'd be a good field for electrical and sports-themed Digimon, while Blizzard Fang could finally separate ice Digimon from Deep Savers (guess it's also worth noting that Cyber Sleuth incorporated Justice Genome and, bizarrely enough, the Xros Loader's Primal Troopers).

I agree but there aren’t enough of certain Digimon Types to support many fields.

Wind Guardians, Deep Savers, and Jungle Troopers are fairly rare.

Metal Empire is abundant but has few lv 3s which is why the tcg pads it out with Agumon, Gabumon, Commandramon each set, and a few mineral Digimon.

They didn’t leave a lot of ice Digimon out of Blizzard Fang.

It feels like nearly all new Digimon are Dragon’s Roar and/or Nature Spirits (and in particular the Animal Colosseum subtype).

There’s a reason beyond Battle Spirits that Wind Guardians and Deep Savers were essentially liquidated and spread among the other six fields/colors.

I agree.

My particular grievance is that we never got a proper one-to-one relationship between fields, main species types and elements. . We have 8 main recurring fields and elements. Digimon Story, Digimon Cyber Sleuth, Hyper Colosseum, and Digimon Next all seem to follow the same eight. But the lore of the 10 legendary warriors doesn't fit this.

Now, I don't particularly need a one-one relationship... but it does seem that the Ice element doesn't get it's own groupings enough. For example, Ice is the only element left out of Digi-egg groups. Overall, I think this can be solved with the franchise more consistently recognizing Ice as a separate element from water and thunder and metal as separate elements.

 

[Prodigious]

Let’s have some fun. With ghost game on hiatus, I thought this would be a good way to keep fans and users of this blog engaged with each other. I don’t want this to turn into debate or an argument, I just wanna know everyone’s unpopular opinions.

ill start with mine

unpopular opinion..
Gabumons evolution line is whack and boring. I don’t see why he’s given 2nd best treatment. I’d even argue that onnimon would be better as just an augumon evolution.
this also applies to all gabumon character archetypes… goamon and lobomon

Unpopular opinion..
Zudomon was the coolest ultimate design and criminally underused. Justice for Joe

unpopular opinion..
Megagargomon was bad looking mega
Rapidmon to megagargomon just doesn’t make sense to me. I understand the East Asian history aesthetic to tamers Megas, devas and sovereign, but it’s a horrible final evolution for fun terriermon

unpopular opinion…
DNA digivolution in 02 sucked
I loved all the champion forms for the 02 cast. Would’ve loved to see natural ultimate evolutions. Or eVen the champions evolving using the digimentals or both eggs combined… missed opportunity

unpopular opinion…
Impmon should’ve replaced lemon as Jerris partner. F them little kids he had

 

[Vande]

Merged the new thread with the existing one

 

[AquaKai]

a bug pollinating Palmon's head only to gain its consciousness and power

Kinky.

Hmm… could this mean Tailmon, Angewomon, LadyDevimon, and Holydramon (possibly even Syakomon) were designed for the Version 4 before being moved to S due to being too wary of feminine appeal on a mainline release?

According to Wikimon, Digital Monster ver. 4 came out in May 1998, while ver. S in September 1998. So I would exclude that, but it actually depends on how much time ver. S stayed in development.

unpopular opinion..
Megagargomon was bad looking mega

unpopular opinion…
Impmon should’ve replaced lemon as Jerris partner. F them little kids he had

I agree with these two. Not so much with everything else.

 

[Yamato-san]

Hmm… could this mean Tailmon, Angewomon, LadyDevimon, and Holydramon (possibly even Syakomon) were designed for the Version 4 before being moved to S due to being too wary of feminine appeal on a mainline release?

According to Wikimon, Digital Monster ver. 4 came out in May 1998, while ver. S in September 1998. So I would exclude that, but it actually depends on how much time ver. S stayed in development.

Now that I think about it, why did several of the Digimon introduced in Ver.S, specifically, get their levels retconned? I guess in SaberLeomon and Holydramon's case (as well as Hououmon in Digimon World), at least, it could be attributed to the Ultimate level being newly implemented. Though in that case, it's a wonder why none of the Perfects from the V-pets got upgraded to Ultimate..... ironically, the only Digital Monster monster to see an upgrade was an Adult becoming a Perfect, Whamon.

Speaking of Whamon, though, does anyone think it's possible that the Ver.S Digimon will one day be restored to their original levels in some random piece of media, with the Reference Book firmly establishing both as being different species? Probably not, since I'm guessing Whamon was more of a special case (the original V-pets seem more fondly remembered than Ver.S..... and hell, Adult Whamon was in Ver.S itself), plus the franchise as a whole seems to have pretty well moved on from constantly feeling the need to state "This Folder Digimon is the same as the File Digimon but better" (though I guess in this case, it'd be more like File Digimon, or wherever Ver.S took place, being better than their Folder counterparts). The only other odd exception to this is Minotaurmon, and I'm guessing that only happened because the people behind the Hyper Colosseum card game (after just including Minotaurmon in literally the first booster set) didn't quite get the memo that Minotaurmon's an Adult now. Amusingly enough, outside of the Lotteria promo (which did specifically name "Minotaurmon Adult" as such), Minotaurmon never got another card throughout the entirety of Hyper Colosseum's run. Whatever the case may be, I don't think we're too likely to see "Minotaurmon Perfect" pop up in the Reference Book at any point (at least not any more likely than we are to see Shakomon Perfect, Ebidramon Perfect, or MechaNorimon Perfect see the light of day again).

 

[AquaKai]

Is an unpopular opinion if I say I would have preferred many of them to stay at their original level? Leomon becoming Saberleomon without middle randomness or warp evolution, or the same for Tailmon > Holydramon... The most amusing one is Shakomon, however. I would have loved it as a tiny perfect mame-style.
And while I can accept most of them with the new level, being featured in a v-pet, Minotaurmon for me will always be a Perfect.

Speaking of Whamon, though, does anyone think it's possible that the Ver.S Digimon will one day be restored to their original levels in some random piece of media, with the Reference Book firmly establishing both as being different species?

I'd be all for it, but they probably want to avoid the "Whamon effect": Whamon evolve in.... Whamon! LOL It's like the 10th Doctor regenerating without changing face.

 

[Yamato-san]

I'd be all for it, but they probably want to avoid the "Whamon effect": Whamon evolve in.... Whamon! LOL It's like the 10th Doctor regenerating without changing face.

Funnily enough, Shakomon wouldn't evolve into itself (at least not without Warp Shinka). Poor thing really took a hit, being the only Perfect degraded all the way to Child.

 

[Bancho]

imagine defeating thousands of Shakomon like they were easy nothings then out of nowhere a god level normal looking Shakomon kills you

 

[Unknown Neo]

You mean like Alpha Pokemon in Arceus? Those are quite difficult to deal with. And huge.

 

[Bancho]

well, no I didn't mean that but if it fits the description then yeah, sure. I haven't played that game.
I think Next Order also had powerful, huge versions of normal digimon randomly running about

 

[e105zeta]

Is an unpopular opinion if I say I would have preferred many of them to stay at their original level? Leomon becoming Saberleomon without middle randomness or warp evolution, or the same for Tailmon > Holydramon... The most amusing one is Shakomon, however. I would have loved it as a tiny perfect mame-style.
And while I can accept most of them with the new level, being featured in a v-pet, Minotaurmon for me will always be a Perfect.

Speaking of Whamon, though, does anyone think it's possible that the Ver.S Digimon will one day be restored to their original levels in some random piece of media, with the Reference Book firmly establishing both as being different species?

I'd be all for it, but they probably want to avoid the "Whamon effect": Whamon evolve in.... Whamon! LOL It's like the 10th Doctor regenerating without changing face.

If Whamon Perfect was simply recolored White nobody would think twice. Ditto Minotaurmon Perfect and the rest.

 

[AquaKai]

Actually that would bug me a lot. I never liked simple recolors (a very lazy idea), and evolutions based on color change, (like Insekimon, Icemon, Panjamon, ecc...) are the worst.
Also, if anything, Minotaurmon Adult should be the one changing color, since it came second.

 

[Bancho]

oh, there's one I have for the unpopular opinions! Thanks for reminding me, AquaKai.

I actually love Gottsumon -> Icemon -> Meteormon and I had so much fun playing Hacker's memory and having my starter digimon evolve into itself over and over as I found it really funny and quirky.
I was actually very disappointed there isn't a mega that uses Gottsumon's design as its base (either a recolor or something like PlatinumNumemon).
People bring up Gottsumon's recolor evos as the worst examples of recoloring and normally I dislike recolors as well (I'm okay with clones but I want there to at least be some edit to the design outside the colors like SnowGoblimon or Lopmon) but because of that very specific personal experience, I wholeheartedly have been wanting a mega level Gottsumon for years.

As a side note, one thing that most people didn't notice that I love Cyber Sleuth for and makes Icemon feel a lot less like a recolor is that it has unique animations where on its victory screen as well as when walking in the overworld, it doesn't walk but actually slides around everywhere as though it was ice skating. Meteormon copies Gottsumon's victory and walk animations though which is pretty disappointing after seeing the fun quirkiness of Icemon but its signature move animation is super cool looking at least

 

[DigiKing Tamer]

I blame Shiny Pokémon for popularizing recolored Mons.

Edit: Also, to quote Abridged!Godwin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6VqHCvdg9I&t=265s

 

[Bancho]

I blame Shiny Pokémon for popularizing recolored Mons.

I blame Dragon Quest

List of enemies in Dragon Quest I - Dragon Quest Wiki

dragon-quest.org