I mean, beyond Sora and Matt, and Ken and Yolei, none of the couples are canon. For all we know, Tai ended up with Meiko or Catherine.And I say we have Meiko and I like her so here, we have the answer, I'm tired of this again so I'm done. Tai/Meiko is cute. ...Now if only Davis made mention of meeting someone like they say Cody did somewhere. Also Joe.
Raguel is also male. The name may have been given to situate the figure within the corpus of the Judaeo-Christian (or more specifically Judaic in this sense.) Angelology as opposed to randomly sticking a figure from paganism amongst the angels. Not that Digimon has ever been strict in its treatment of angels, but nothing about the design proper says "Judaeo-Christian Angel!". Cherubimon is a perfect example of that. It's literally a lagomorph jester, but because it's called Cherubimon, we all just go with it. Ophanimon has more motifs associated with biblical Cherubim than does Cherubimon. It's actually odd that Digimon didn't model the design for Ophanimon on actual Ophanim.The tension with Tai was dub-exclusive, yes.
Tri. just added a bunch of random shiptease between several couples where it wasn’t present before that.
Tri gave into it needlessly, or engaged in a bit of fan service that was meant to fan those flames. Nevertheless, it's there. Tai should have backed off then. Curious though, what exactly was the issue between Tai and Sora in the original Digimon movie (Movie 2 in the original release)?
I think you’ve gotten confused - Raguelmon isn’t dog-headed, but cat-headed, because she, and her entire line are cat-based. Furthermore, the description of her behaviour matches that of the Judaic Archangel Raguel. I can understand why you’d be annoyed that she’s a cat, when Raguel isn’t, similar to how ChoHakkaimon is a girl dressed as a pig instead of a pig monster, which puts her at odds with the more faithful Gokuwmon and Sagomon...but you’re inventing connections that just aren’t there. Raguelmon hunts falling angels not because she is a fury...but because that is literally Raguel’s job. He’s literally known as the Angel of Vengeance, among other things.
I know she's technically based on a cat, but I cited that in my original post that I was willing to stretch that to apply to being dog headed (or I suppose being Beast headed).
Thematically, a Fury, or any of the cited goddesses of rage, divine retribution etc. all fit under the function that Raguelmon serves, justice.
Out of curiosity, what Demon/Fallen Angel Digimon triggered Raguelmon? None in so far as Tri is concerned. Ophanimon Falldown Mode was triggered due to the actions of Raguelmon that resulted in Tai's assumed death.
Yes, sure, you could say she’s ‘like a Fury’ or ‘like -insert goddess of rage here’...but she’s named Raguelmon and does the same job that Raguel does. Ergo, even if she is based loosely on other deities as well, she is still based on Raguel, and so the name is perfectly apt.
It is mentioned that Raguelmon goes after Angel Digimon ‘about to fall’ in her official profile - nothing to do with Tri.
But my unpopular opinion still stands, the naming conventions for a number of Digimon make no sense based on designs alone.
In so far as Raguelmon, I was discussing the figure from Tri, as I cited her Jogress/Fusion form with Ophanimon Falldown Mode becoming Ordinemon.
You know I stick exclusively to animated media, and even then, it still corresponds to what I said before concerning designs and naming conventions.Valkyries and Haripes are female too, yet the male Hawkmon belonging to Yolei became Valkryimon and Harpymon.
Also, the Three Archangels Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael are male... yet the Digimon version of the Three Archangels have a girl (Ophanimon).
Lilithmon is meant to correspond tocan extra-canonical figure from Talmudic lore, and to be a counterpart to Ophanimon. That one doesn't bother me as much. She corresponds in form and function to what she's supposed to be.Heck the Seven Great Demon Lords are meant to be 7 male demons as well (the seven princes of hell), yet they made one of them female (Lilithmon). Digimon tend not to care about the gender of the original when they make their monsters and just do whatever.
You know I stick exclusively to animated media, and even then, it still corresponds to what I said before concerning designs and naming conventions.Valkyries and Haripes are female too, yet the male Hawkmon belonging to Yolei became Valkryimon and Harpymon.
Also, the Three Archangels Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael are male... yet the Digimon version of the Three Archangels have a girl (Ophanimon).
There are Seven Archangels of the Presence. Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon don't correspond to them in form or function. Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon only correspond to their cited Angelic hierarchies. MagnaAngemon, IMO, corresponds to the hierarchy of Archangels.
Lilithmon is meant to correspond tocan extra-canonical figure from Talmudic lore, and to be a counterpart to Ophanimon. That one doesn't bother me as much. She corresponds in form and function to what she's supposed to be.Heck the Seven Great Demon Lords are meant to be 7 male demons as well (the seven princes of hell), yet they made one of them female (Lilithmon). Digimon tend not to care about the gender of the original when they make their monsters and just do whatever.
The Three Great Angels, again, do not directly correspond to the three main Archangels of the Judaeo-Christian tradition in form and in function. Those three ranks are amongst the three highest angelic choirs of the nine known angelic hierarchies.The Digimon group are literally named "The Three Archangels". So that means theyre based on Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, the Three Archangels from religion
And the SGDL are based on the seven prince of hell. Lilithmon is meant to be Asmodeus (a male demon) and her SGDL crest actually outright says Asmodeus on it.
Also I forgot to include Sylphs in my list. Sylphs are female too. (No reason to discount Harypmon and Valkryimon though Yolei literally evolves her Hawkmon to them in media set in the adventure universe)
Only really Russian Christianity and the Book of Tobit has seven archangels. Most traditions have 4 or 3. Sometimes they even say 4 but just leave out Uriel.There are Seven Archangels of the Presence. Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon don't correspond to them in form or function. Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon only correspond to their cited Angelic hierarchies. MagnaAngemon, IMO, corresponds to the hierarchy of Archangels
If I recall correctly, Sora had a one-sided crush on Tai in the Adventure light novel adaptationWasn’t the drama between Taichi and Sora in Boku no War game over Taichi not liking Sora’s new hat? That seems like a pre couple spat instead of a just friend thing.The tension with Tai was dub-exclusive, yes.
Tri. just added a bunch of random shiptease between several couples where it wasn’t present before that.
It just feels like typical “bad timing” kids romance on both their parts and makes it a more interesting story than just plain Sora/Yamato endgame.If I recall correctly, Sora had a one-sided crush on Tai in the Adventure light novel adaptationWasn’t the drama between Taichi and Sora in Boku no War game over Taichi not liking Sora’s new hat? That seems like a pre couple spat instead of a just friend thing.The tension with Tai was dub-exclusive, yes.
Tri. just added a bunch of random shiptease between several couples where it wasn’t present before that.
the seven princes of hell include both lucifer and satan. not everything considers them to be the same entity, and this includes digimon.
Satan proper is a title (The Adversary).The name 'Lucifer' itself came to be applied to his role, but again, a title.By the way, Satan and Lucifer are the same figure only in mainstream Christianity (Lucifer wasn’t even the name of an angel, originally). They are two members of the seven princes of Hell according to demonologists.
and like I said the "three great angels" are actually the "three archangels". 三大天使. theyre intended to be those three guys with ophanimon as one of them. but this seems like a moot point if you're going to decide "nah theyre not".
And it seems weird to me that you insists that Seraphimon and company can only be based on what they’re named after when you’re making the opposite claim about Raguelmon not being based on what it’s named after.
It’s rather myopic to look only at the anime. You can’t judge the creators’ intentions that way.
Satan proper is a title (The Adversary).The name 'Lucifer' itself came to be applied to his role, but again, a title.
Biblically speaking, the figure has multiple names and titles.
But that seems to be allusory to the three main Archangels (Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael). What of their roles and designs actually communicate anything about them being akin to those biblical counterparts? Mind you, just three of them, not the whole class of that particular Digimon type being akin in role, type, and function to Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael?
Raguelmon is a cat-angel hybrid whose name is the sole allusion to its function. I granted that it serves that function, but that design wise, and thematically (This being the main emphasis of my argument.), it observes the function of being an agent of Justice/Libra (which is,IMO, thematically what the choice of name "Raguel" is meant to allude to). It is multiple figures at once in form and in function, as they all fall under attributes of Justice (Wrath/Retribution/Order/Peace/Mercy etc.). Meiko is never explicitly cited as possessing a crest, but we do see Meicoomon explicitly cited as Libra, and Meiko's digivice accordingly reacting to various stimuli which forces Meicoomon to level up. She represents both Cosmos (Would have been nice to see her Creative aspect emphasized. Why Magnadramon ended up with a Double Helix for a tale intrigues me.) and Chaos in her forms as Libra (Even the name hints at her relationship to Astraea as Rasielmon). So that's my long-winded way of saying, the names are allusory to figures associated with Justice, thematically, than they are to the figure proper. I stated that from the beginning of my responses.
But it works as a stand alone source regardless of external source material, no?
Kryten would be the person to field that one. He determined (at least to his own satisfaction) which of them represented which archangel, based on their shared roles.
Well, here we come up against the fact that a lot of what you call your unpopular opinions are just headcanons you've come up with (all this stuff about Meiko having the Crest of Justice and whatnot). More to the point, the Erinyes' job was to punish human beings. Raguelmon's job, like Raguel's, is to punish other angels. And I don't see any visual resemblance between Raguelmon and an Erinys. You can say it has no resemblance to Raguel either, but to my knowledge no one has ever stated what Raguel is supposed to look like.
In the original at least, it’s made fairly clear that the Libra refers to her being the reincarnation of Apocalymon. How isn’t specified: she could be the potential light to his darkness or his “reward” of sorts for absorbing the grudges of dead Digimon and having a miserable first life.I wouldn't, per se, call it a headcanon, when, at least in so far as the dub, Meicoomon is explicitly called 'Libra'. She is Balance, representing Chaos, and Gatomon representing Cosmos. It's implicit to Homeostasis'design/desire to maintain the balance between Light and Darkness.