Social Art & Messages for Adventure: Episode 43, Shodo Panorama Art Preview, Konaka Tamers Blog Updates & Behind the Scenes, & Reference Book Update

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A nice and interesting batch of stuff for the weekend...



After Digimon Adventure: episode 43 aired, Digimon Web put up new social art of Volcamon & Etemon, who both had beyond memorable appearances in the episode. The attached message:
Thanks for watching episode 43 Clash, the King of Digimon!🎤👑🎤

Entertainment played out in song! Aim to be the King of Digimon by exercising with muscles!
Please watch episode 43 again many times & sing along🎶

Please look forward to next time, episode 44, Hikari and the Moving Forest.


There is a doll show in Tokyo this weekend, so no art from Keni Watanabe (on occasion when he's been busy when an episode airs he swings back to it later.)



But a few different other staff members chimed in on Twitter (there may have been others, but these are ones we saw.)



An animator from the episode, Jubei 9, posted artwork after the episode aired and was quite happy to have it shared so more fans could see it. They also shared a message:
I HAVE WORKED ON MY FAVORITE FRANCHISE!!!

Thanks to everyone who helped me and special thanks to @TonariAnimation and @Beasto_ani this is one of the best things that ever happened to me, THANKS A LOT!!!

Kenji Konuta, the writer of the episode, also shared a quick thought regarding putting his life into writing the rap lyrics in the episode (said with a laugh.)

He's written for many anime, included but not limited to- Devilman Lady, Cyborg 009, Gaiking, and was the series composer for more than a few anime including Blood Lad and High School DxD Hero. On top of that, he's also written a few other episodes of Digimon Adventure:...
7. That Boy is Joe Kido
16. The Jet-Black Shadow Invades Tokyo
22. The Unbeatable Blue Sagittarius
29. Escape the Burning Jungle
35. The Glowing Angewomon


And we also heard from the hero of all, Volcano Ota, after the episode with a fun message of thanks:
Thanks to everyone who watched today's Digimon.
I enjoyed it the fullest, rap and all!
And as some of you may have noticed... following the Andromon & Golemon episodes, the Volcamon episode is also a story where Palmon has an active role (lol).
I feel a strange connection(^_^)



And the last bit for Adventure: is a bit of toy related art...


Pre-oredrs for the Limited version of the 3rd series of Digimon Shodo figures close in a few hours in Japan, so they've shared the sketch version of the exclusive Kenji Watanabe artwork for the set box. A preview of how it fits with prior sets art was also previewed. (We may have gotten the art before, but I wasn't sure, so decided to toss it in.)

US Pre-orders for the limited box closed in February, while the standard versions should be on shelves shortly in Japan, when the limited set comes out there.

Previous details of Shodo Series 3 can be found here, here, and here.



We also got a small reference book update earlier in the week...

As chosen by fans to be the first of four added to the reference book with profile art...



BlackSeraphimon



And last up, for Tamers fans...



Konaka has been updating his Digimon Tamers 20th Anniversary Blog, with a few recent entries specifically being of note.
About Tamers OP, ED, Insert Song
Tamers Character Songs (and more)
Story Retrospective Introduction
Episode 1 Part 1
Episode 1 Part 2
Episode 1 Part 3


A few random things gleamed from them... A small list of bits from these (overall), as he goes over a lot, hopefully there is time for us to do a full translation later. Some of these details are things we knew, but perhaps further clarified... (these are quickly translations, but hopefully mostly accurate). Update- Made a few corrections thanks to Chiaki Konaka.

When he was first asked to write a new CD drama in summer 2017 (this was the audio drama included with the Tamers BD-Box), he went back and listened to Digimon music endlessly, and not just from Tamers.
He wasn't involved with the production of Digimon music and didn't know Wada Kouji. He was shocked at the news though.
When he first heard the demo of The Biggest Dreamer he was disappointed due to the sound of the orchestra, that first impression vanished quickly due to the powerful singing of Wada Kouji.
He believes Butter-Fly is immovable for those who watch Digimon and can't be shaken. He likes Strong Version personally. The acapella theater version shook him the most.
Target~Akai Shougeki~, the opening to Adventure 02, is his favorite musically.
The character song lyrics weren't something he was able to pre-check to make sure they were accurate to the show. He ended up being impressed how nearly everything was in line with the series, at least as related to the first half of the series (he mentions how characters change and evolve in story and relationships, like living people, rather than as the initial 'characters'.)

He had a meet & greet with Yasuko Kobayashi (writer of Battle of the Adventurers) at one point, and he knew what the film was about, so he believes by the end of the series, the film was tied in.
He views Runaway Digimon Express as 'another story' [to his Tamers], although he really enjoyed watching the movie. He is disappointed that animation director for the film Ken Ueno didn't end up being involved in the Tamers TV series.
He notes that, much like other Digimon movies, even with the same producers, things will be different, so there will inevitably be discrepancies with the show. The extent of this depends on the work and he accepts this as an inevitability.

He says he's long winded, and the blog format likely works better for him because he wants to write about 'this and that'. He mentions his Twitter having a bit under 9000 followers, but that most of them are overseas, which is the reason why he writes a lot of poor English tweets.
He is generally pleased that fans were able to see prior writings of his about the show.

The change in worldview for Tamers, from Adventure, having Digimon be a game, introducing the card game in the show, etc. was from Bandai, which was initially a headache, as he sees himself as a writer that does supernatural things with 'surprise', so trying to sync battle images with a card game was something he couldn't see initially.
It ended up being involved with evolution, which is indispensable for Digimon, but he sees no point in the cards being used on their own (when he was being shown option cards to use he apparently had issues groping for 'what' to do with them.)
The D-Ark scanning cards was based on the toy.
Director Kaizawa came up with the importance of the Blue Card, along with the action of card slashing.

The digital world being shown as it did initially as based on them not being clear how they wanted to show it, but being aware that viewers would already know the concept of the digital world, and not needing it explained to them, so showing it as you might think of the 'real internet', later this version of the digital world is taken to be a layer close to the real world.
The show was declared to be set in 200X when it originally aired by the discretion of producer Seki Hiromi, while it was written as if it were 2001-2002. The unspecified 'official' dates was based on it being better for those outside of Japan, when there might be a difference.
They added motion blur in the scene with the swirling sky and Takato in episode 1. He wonders if effects like this will end up feeling 'retro' if 4k60 becomes a standard for movies.

Culumon is a regular in the series, with no partner. Wiz and Bandai presented the character as being involved in evolution. Konaka thought that they intended to use the character to develop a product for girls.
Konaka assumed the number of Tamers would increase. Hirokazu, Kenta, and Juri would definitely become them since they were drawn raising D-Arks in the opening, but it wasn't an easy thing (this was added by series director Yukio Kaizawa, who also directed the opening.)

The show was simply a TV series, so he was unaware how much 3D CG they would be allowed to use. The full scale view in scenes (such as the one Guilmon runs through) was something he didn't imagine would be made for the show.
The 'Guilmon language' that Guilmon uses initially is something created by voice actor Masako Nozawa, which they had no choice but to be impressed by.

He tried to make continuity not too strong initially, due to wanting to make it easier for new viewers. He considers this an eternal problem for TV shows, although he wonders if that might be moved away from due to blockbuster movies and modern dramas.

He notes the director and scriptwriters are different from episode to episode, passing and relaying the baton of the story back and forth, so adjustments have to be made. He seems happy the first 4 episodes of the show was a continuous tale.




A really nice batch of art and details this weekend!
 

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I red Black Seraphimon's profile. It's a pity that they don't say anything about his undeniable similarity to Mercuremon. After all, that's the origin of his design.
 

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Well that's fun and interesting. Nice art all around. Is that what he looks like? Makes sense. Lot of interesting info there. Thanks a lot.
 

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I red Black Seraphimon's profile. It's a pity that they don't say anything about his undeniable similarity to Mercuremon. After all, that's the origin of his design.
To be fair, the DRB has been known to omit anime esoterica hence why there are some Digimon I don't see ever being added, namely the Bio-Hybrids since they are very specifically tied to Data Squad.

The other major example of such omission is Calmaramon's profile omitting any suggestion of her being ugly since not only is that a plot point specific to Frontier but it is one that not everyone outside of that series even agrees with.

Many fans, myself included, actually find her beautiful and Adventure 2020 also pointedly discarded the idea of her being ugly when she appeared.
 

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To be fair, the DRB has been known to omit anime esoterica hence why there are some Digimon I don't see ever being added, namely the Bio-Hybrids since they are very specifically tied to Data Squad.
On the other hand, of the eight Burst Modes (nine if you count the unofficial Gaiomon Burst Mode, but... well, unofficial), six are tied to Savers, and four have made it into the DRB. You might point out that those have made other appearances... but all the Bio Hybrids have made appearances since, and they clearly haven't forgotten about them because New Century temporarily had Biolotosmon (as a mistake that they used instead of regular Lotosmon, but that says something itself really).

Much like Blackseraphimon here, all it would really take for them to get into the DRB is for someone to just want to put them in the DRB. After all, this argument could have applied to it as well until the recent poll.
 

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Here's the thing, the Burst Modes that since appeared outside of Data Squad can be very cleanly divorced from the series itself since not only is Burst Digivolution not exclusive to Data Squad, having appeared in Next as well, but these Digimon can even function without it altogether as regular Mode Changes and/or Level VII stage.

This divorce is not possible with the Bio-Hybrids since they were explicitly created as the Digimon forms of Kouki, Nanami and Ivan by Kurata and have only since appeared in card games, which I already regard as being of dubious canonicity outside of showcasing possible Digivolution paths because of headaches they've caused in the past, and New Century due to, and I want emphasize this point, a mistake.

In terms of lore, you really can't divorce them from Data Squad the way you could the Burst Modes, apart from Agumon Burst Mode who I don't see getting added either, because without their Data Squad origin their existence as distinct Digimon makes no sense.

Notice the BioLotusmon used regular Lotusmon's profile which, to me, speaks volumes about BioLotusmon as a character namely that she's a non-character without Nanami which frankly cements the Bio-Hybrids as the most egregious example of Digimon being designed as characters rather than as species.

The only examples to even come close are Guilmon (whose profile omits any suggestion of it being created whatsoever and instead treats it as a naturally occurring species, Kimeramon (whose predates 02 and was created to tie into Machinedramon and Millenniummon) and the Legendary Warriors (who were confirmed to be their own characters who simply loaned their remnants to the Frontier DigiDestined so that the latter could finish the job that the Legendary Warriors themselves started before returning the DigiDestined home having gotten newly reconstituted bodies out of the partnership).
 

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I like the Tamers details, it's fun to hear that from a perspective of someone involved in production. Obviously there's some push and pull with creative vision and, well, the fact that it's a kid's property meant to sell toys, but you can see how the original quirks shine through once the corporate mandated stuff is out of the way (even if Card Slashing is the bees knees).

And the Shodo series 3 art was up on the US site for a while, at least, but I'm hoping to maybe see a full panorama without the text at some point.
 

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I loved all Tamers information related, wow it was amazing.
 

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So what's the deal with Black Seraphimon being a Virus? Did they forget that they were presenting the other fallen Great Angels as Vaccine? And honestly, I kinda like how they're moving away from making it a Mercuremon fusion. Makes it a bit less of a headache in keeping consistency between the other Great Angels (who obviously don't need a fusion to reach their fallen forms)..... though I still wish Digimon World 3's BlackSeraphimon could make a comeback.
 

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It's always been a Virus. The other fallen forms should have followed suit (as they did, in Cherubimon's case, before the Reference Book copy-psted the Vaccine version's classification).
 

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In fairness, Digimon can have more than one Attribute depending on the context.
 

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In regards to BioLotusmon in New Century whilst they used the wrong image originally once they get to the Data Squad part of the story (if they ever get that far, i doubt it'll even get half way into 02 at best) she'll show up properly alongside the other bio hybrids. At least it got us some really nice art until then. That BioLotusmon art would be of Nanami herself unless they add a playable version I guess, though I find that unlikely. They did already have her art day one though, which is weird.
 

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So what's the deal with Black Seraphimon being a Virus? Did they forget that they were presenting the other fallen Great Angels as Vaccine? And honestly, I kinda like how they're moving away from making it a Mercuremon fusion. Makes it a bit less of a headache in keeping consistency between the other Great Angels (who obviously don't need a fusion to reach their fallen forms)..... though I still wish Digimon World 3's BlackSeraphimon could make a comeback.
Only Ophanimon Falldown Mode is consistently considered a Vaccine type.
 

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Wow I didn't realize that fallen Cherubimon and Ofanimon were officially classified as Vaccine Digimon. Expecially when the movie about the Golden Digimental is based on Chocomon being infected by a virus. I guess it's true that they don't always take in consideration the anime references.
It's curious because my impression is that the new DA: is focusing on showing the Digimon as they are dipicted in the Reference Book.
 

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It's always been a Virus. The other fallen forms should have followed suit (as they did, in Cherubimon's case, before the Reference Book copy-psted the Vaccine version's classification).
Yes, BlackSeraphimon was a Virus in the card game. But so was Cherubimon (Vice), and that didn't stop the Reference Book from retconning it to a Vaccine (though I'm not sure if it was ever a Vaccine in any earlier media). Most notably, they even retain this Vaccine typing for its X-Antibody variant. Incidentally, the same thing happened with Deathmon (Black): Virus in the card game, but a Data just like its standard variant in the Reference Book. The general rule now seems to be that when a Digimon has some kind of fallen form, it'll somehow retain its attribute rather than just going Virus (which I'll take as a good thing, since it's nice to see more Vaccines deviate from the norm).

Ironically, I'm bringing up a lot of things that were explained to me way earlier in another thread.

In fairness, Digimon can have more than one Attribute depending on the context.
The card game often featured attribute variations of the same Digimon, with no design change either, and sometimes even bringing up the variation in its lore-related description (Data Imperialdramon, anyone?). But I feel the franchise has generally been a lot more consistent in just sticking to Reference Book details in recent years, minus a few outliers (like GranKuwagamon and Cherubimon (Vice) both being Virus in Cyber Sleuth, though that does seem like an honest mistake to make given their history in the franchise, not to mention the rest of the Kuwagamon line).
 

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The mistake, I think, is on the part of the Reference Book. They just copy-pasted everything.
 

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Huh.... you're right. Both Cherubimon just have the same exact profile description. Same with both Deathmon, for that matter. Though, Ofanimon Falldown Mode being a Vaccine is still noteworthy, especially since it does have a completely unique description. And they did use Vaccine for the X-Antibody version of Cherubimon (Vice), even in the V-pet to my understanding.

As an aside, does anyone know where Wikimon got its translations of "Cherubimon (Virtue)" and "Cherubimon (Vice)"? The Reference Book simply lists "Cherubimon" in English for both of them, but is there any kind of official source? Otherwise, why not just translate "Zen" and "Aku" as the far more simpler "Good" and "Evil"?
 

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Cherubimon Vice is what the fallen version is called in its Reference Book page’s URL. “Cherubimon Virtue” was probably an extrapolation from that.
 
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