Random Commentary on Evolutionary Relationships V.5

[MasterOfTartarus]

here is a bit of a twist for a Bombermon line, i mostly wanted to focus on his straight-jacket, but it ended up more on theme then I thought.

Keramon got a pretty similair body shape to bomber and a bunch of his attacks start with "crazy", Opposumons attack "Mad Balloon Bomb" fits both the crazy and the bomb aspects, finally Minervamons X´s "mad merri-go-round" attack fits in aswell as her huge chaindogs looking like bombs that resemble the ballons and keramon and some twirly energy around her like bombermon.
You could also say the cute factor of Opossumon returned in Minercamon, also a strange carnival sub-theme? kera looks like a jester, the balloon and again the "mad merri-go-round" attack, though that makes Bombermons inclusion a bit disturbing.

 

[McGann]

That's a pretty neat line.
@HeroWars I guess I'm pretty keen on plant-based humanoids.

 

[JR9386]

Somewhat OT, but I suppose it may be helpful to someone making an evolutionary line featuring SkullBaluchimon. I realize that he's comprised of the fossil data of multiple creatures, but I couldn't help but notice that he almost directly corresponds to a more feral sabretoothed version of Firamon. I only noticed this today after realizing that Baluchimon has a beard, which is a design element i hadn't considering when making his line. Azulongmon,Golddramon, and Mitamamon are my defaults for the line, but this adds another dimension to it.

Also, is Coronamon>Apollomon intended to be Flamemon meets Liomon? Apollomon could easily figure into Agnimon's line of a more human bent.

 

[Bancho]

Somewhat OT, but I suppose it may be helpful to someone making an evolutionary line featuring SkullBaluchimon. I realize that he's comprised of the fossil data of multiple creatures, but I couldn't help but notice that he almost directly corresponds to a more feral sabretoothed version of Firamon.

oh wow, I'm surprised I never made that connection, especially as SkullBaluchimon always reminds me of its "Kowloon Co" boss fight from the Dawn/Dusk games as its huge pixel art and striking character design really stood out to me as a kid and that was the only appearance I had seen of SkullBaluchimon for about a decade until Adventure: 2020. I used to think he was made just to be a mysterious unobtainable boss enemy for those games until I learned of his actual first appearance

Also, is Coronamon>Apollomon intended to be Flamemon meets Liomon? Apollomon could easily figure into Agnimon's line of a more human bent.

I don't think it was intentional but it's 100% the end result. There's no way the Coronamon and Agunimon lines aren't super closely related

 

[JR9386]

oh wow, I'm surprised I never made that connection, especially as SkullBaluchimon always reminds me of its "Kowloon Co" boss fight from the Dawn/Dusk games as its huge pixel art and striking character design really stood out to me as a kid and that was the only appearance I had seen of SkullBaluchimon for about a decade until Adventure: 2020. I used to think he was made just to be a mysterious unobtainable boss enemy for those games until I learned of his actual first appearance

I've never plaid the games, but it's good to know that I wasn't completely off!

The more I thought about it, the more sense it makes. Firamon corresponds to the Winged Lion of St.Mark, which is likewise the emblem of Venice.

Seeing as many view Manticoremon as a possible Baluchimon alternate evolution line, along with SkullBaluchimon for the Ultimate/Perfect level, it appears that the possible "third" would be yet another composite creature. Manticores have the face of a man, the body of a lion, and the tail of a scorpion. SkullBaluchimon is a composite fossil digimon with the horns of a bovine, the sabre teeth of a feline, the body of a lion, and reptilian wings. That description fits in well with the Winged Bulls of Mesopotamia. Of course both SkullBaluchimon and Manticoremon are corrupted, so it's possible that this third would complete the Four Heavenly Beasts of Judaeo-Christian tradition: Firamon (Lion of St.Mark), Angemon (Angel of St.Matthew), Garudamon (Eagle of St.John (A bit of a stretch, but this is Digimon...), and finally, the Bull of St. Luke. Looking at the design further, you can see elements of BOTH Vajramon and Mihiramon (Who looks a lot like Meicoomon...,).

Somewhat OT, but I suppose it may be helpful to someone making an evolutionary line featuring SkullBaluchimon. I realize that he's comprised of the fossil data of multiple creatures, but I couldn't help but notice that he almost directly corresponds to a more feral sabretoothed version of Firamon.

oh wow, I'm surprised I never made that connection, especially as SkullBaluchimon always reminds me of its "Kowloon Co" boss fight from the Dawn/Dusk games as its huge pixel art and striking character design really stood out to me as a kid and that was the only appearance I had seen of SkullBaluchimon for about a decade until Adventure: 2020. I used to think he was made just to be a mysterious unobtainable boss enemy for those games until I learned of his actual first appearance

Also, is Coronamon>Apollomon intended to be Flamemon meets Liomon? Apollomon could easily figure into Agnimon's line of a more human bent.

I don't think it was intentional but it's 100% the end result. There's no way the Coronamon and Agunimon lines aren't super closely related

Right, just seems way too fitting. I wish Frontier was able to explore these line relationships further.

 

[TMS]

If you're looking for an eagle, you can just use Aquilamon, which is already associated with the desert. Of course, Aquilamon can evolve to Garudamon as well.

 

[JR9386]

If you're looking for an eagle, you can just use Aquilamon, which is already associated with the desert. Of course, Aquilamon can evolve to Garudamon as well.

Fair.

I suppose I gravitated towards Garudamon as he is a Sacred Bird Man vs. Aquilamon which is more of just a standard bird. Nevertheless, point well taken!

These are the sorts of speculative bits of lore that make things interesting. I suppose that if we counted Aquilamon, Firamon, and Angemon, we'd have 3 of 4 Sacred Creatures at the Champion level.

Side note, I've always seen Sora's Crest of Love leaning closer towards the sacred within Eastern traditions, hence not just Garudamon and Phoenixmon, but also Sethmon and Halsemon. Curious that an Apkallu wasn't on the table, though I suppose Garudamon already covers that base.

 

[Rimokon]

If you're looking for an eagle, you can just use Aquilamon, which is already associated with the desert. Of course, Aquilamon can evolve to Garudamon as well.

Fair.

I suppose I gravitated towards Garudamon as he is a Sacred Bird Man vs. Aquilamon which is more of just a standard bird. Nevertheless, point well taken!

These are the sorts of speculative bits of lore that make things interesting. I suppose that if we counted Aquilamon, Firamon, and Angemon, we'd have 3 of 4 Sacred Creatures at the Champion level.

Just a stretch, but maybe you can include Bullmon in the mix even though he's armor-level. It evolves with the Digimental of Hope, which is associated with the corresponding crest that helps Angemon evolve to HolyAngemon.

 

[JR9386]

If you're looking for an eagle, you can just use Aquilamon, which is already associated with the desert. Of course, Aquilamon can evolve to Garudamon as well.

Fair.

I suppose I gravitated towards Garudamon as he is a Sacred Bird Man vs. Aquilamon which is more of just a standard bird. Nevertheless, point well taken!

These are the sorts of speculative bits of lore that make things interesting. I suppose that if we counted Aquilamon, Firamon, and Angemon, we'd have 3 of 4 Sacred Creatures at the Champion level.

Just a stretch, but maybe you can include Bullmon in the mix even though he's armor-level. It evolves with the Digimental of Hope, which is associated with the corresponding crest that helps Angemon evolve to HolyAngemon.

I had considered that when it came to a Baluchimon evolution that would bridge the gap between it and any corresponding Mega. What was a deal breaker for me was the cape. Makes Bullmon look like a masked luchador.

Goatmon/Oryxmon is stylistically perfect, but of course it's a Gatomon evolution! I'd include it amongst the Sacred Creatures alongside the already cited digimon.

 

[gerocabral]

I thought about Mystimon with Bryweludramon for the amor with jewels and fire and decided that @JR9386 idea of Baluchimon into Mystimon was the best for the line.
Edit:

Spoiler: Gammamon evolutions

I mostly wanted to highlight Triceramon X into Arcturusmon making a cool drill ceratopsians connection,and the way Proximamon could also work as an evolution for UltimateBrachimon and Dorbickmon,or could even be a jogress between those two.I guess we'll see when the official art comes out if these connections will end up being better or worse than what I think now with only the sprites.

 

[Hydranoid413]

I was thinking about Rookie Digimon with colour schemes similar to the Evil Warriors’ eggs that existed in 2002, and I realised Terriermon fits fairly well for Mercurymon

His colours match the egg, he’s got a single horn on his head, and he’s a Metal Empire Digimon (even moreso with Gargomon onwards)

Maybe Cherubimon turned his little bro into Mercurymon?

 

[JR9386]

I was thinking about Rookie Digimon with colour schemes similar to the Evil Warriors’ eggs that existed in 2002, and I realised Terriermon fits fairly well for Mercurymon

His colours match the egg, he’s got a single horn on his head, and he’s a Metal Empire Digimon (even moreso with Gargomon onwards)

Maybe Cherubimon turned his little bro into Mercurymon?

That's an interesting point!

I wish Frontier had gone more into the lore of which classes of Digimon are specifically descended from the Ancient Ones. I personally headcanon that AncientWisemon corresponds to Kari's Crest of Light and thus some degree of holiness. Still, intriguing no less. I know they're not digimon proper, but Mirrormon is my default for this line. It's very obviously derived from AncientWisemon, but it's a perfect line. I do wonder, what alternate Mega, beyond ShadowSeraphimon and Murmurkusmon would possibly result from that line?

I thought about Mystimon with Bryweludramon for the amor with jewels and fire and decided that @JR9386 idea of Baluchimon into Mystimon was the best for the line

Those little jewels are helpful to curate a line, but also oddly specific. They're almost intentionally created for those lines, but simultaneously, not.

 

[HeroWars]

Frontier really remind me Mystic Force/MagiRanger. I wonder if they think about frontier when make it.
Hope in future i will see plant cow/buffalo digimon

I was thinking about Rookie Digimon with colour schemes similar to the Evil Warriors’ eggs that existed in 2002, and I realised Terriermon fits fairly well for Mercurymon

His colours match the egg, he’s got a single horn on his head, and he’s a Metal Empire Digimon (even moreso with Gargomon onwards)

Maybe Cherubimon turned his little bro into Mercurymon?

Now you complete this line, thank you so much, Terriermon>Mercuremon/Sephirothmon>Rapidmon>ShadowSeraphimon
Why Rapidmon? See the legs (same as Mercuremon and ShadowSeraphimon), two weapon, it have ball shape, same colors.

Is it that bad to just replace official evolutions u don't really like?I mean,I don't mind Daipenmon but RhinoKabuterimon,I just really hate it.

This one just because

And this one I have shared it before asking if u preffer DarkSeraphimon or Metamorphmon, but to not use DarkSeraphimon is just dumb,and I just really like how the line looks

Edit:
I don't know if this has already been brought but,Vulturemon fits really well with BanchoLlilymon,the cactus shoulder pad with the cactus yoyo,the black and red cape and the overall vibe just looks really good to me,idk

And isn't Vulturemon a great Kiwimon evolution?

 

[gerocabral]

I don't really know the reasoning behind the quoting of my old frontier lines,but in case you want to know my choices have actually drastically changed from those ones,and I actually kinda like Daipenmon and RhinoKabuterimon now!:

Ice:
Choosing a rookie is kind of boring when Hiyarimon looks better,just choose you favourite in the middle,Spadamon,Penmon,Bearmon,even Terriermon,Lopmon and Angoramon,they all work for me,for Ultimate maybe Hexeblaumon woul work but I support Frosvelgrmon.

Good darkness:
For frontier rookied I of course preffer humanoid digimon but Liollmon is kind of the only one that works,Duftmon is perfect for the line.

Bad darkness:
Dracumon is the best rookie in my opinion,Skullsatamon was used in the DimCard and has a black and red bones thematic,and Abbadomon Core is kind of perfect.

Wind:
I choose Venusmon for the anime connection of beast wind spirit being found in a clam,but Eosmon Ultimate looks cooler in my opinion,I might change it,tell me what you think,Junomon also works.

Thunder:
I really love Shivamon as the transcendent form.

Steel:
My favourite forms for this ones are Mirrormon and Biomon,but until the moment when they star officially using Appmon inside Digimon line I guess the best options are Monitamon that works really well,and Rapidmon like you guys said,I never thought about it but now that you guys said it I actually kind of dig it,the spheric armor works really well with Sephirotmon,the shoes with Mercurymon,and the colour scheme with both.

Wood:
Bakomon and Zamielmon really work perfect in my head ,Bakomon got a green card and the DCG so the wood connection isn't so farfectched adn Zamielmon is in the DIMcard,looks really well as a fusion for the wood spirits and is a ranged digimon like AncientTroyamon,BloomLordmon works but Ceresmon does too,I chose the first one for the shared empty head with Arbormon.

Water:
Jellymon works perfect in my opinion,I would use Thetismon but she is kind of too electric for my prefference,if it wasn't meant to be representing the water spirits I wouldn't mind but as the way it is makes it kind of weird,so Splashmon being soooo water inclined and also being obsessed with beauty works,I still don't really like it because I would preffer both of the female represented spirits(wind and water) staying female,but for now Splashmon and MarineAngemon are probably the best,maybe when Jellymon Ultimate comes out I will start using her complete line with the water spirits asjdkwnfjfejvn.

Ground:
Gogmamon is cool,Blastmon is perfect and Gottsumon is the best we have.

 

[MasterOfTartarus]

^seeing Abbadomon again, with the recent discussion about Angel Digimon in mind, Abbadomon might make the perfect counterpart to ClavisAngemon.

not a particular exciting line, buh ehh

 

[Lord Bearmon]

Why ClavisAngemon specifically? I fail to see any resemblance.

 

[gerocabral]

This discussion made me realize how similar Abbadomon Core and BloomLordmon really are,so I made a few paralell lines:

If you wonder in what way Impmon and Wormmon would be opposites,well,I've alwayss found weird that they share Coatlmon and Nohemon as armor evolutions,and you can also count Flawizarmon,that is an armor evolution for both Wormmon and Wizarmon,official Impmon evolution,so you can headcanon it can also armor evolve from him,and Pucchiemon,a Wormmon armor evolution that looks extremely similar to Impmon,maybe it has to be with Beelzemon being based on the Lord of flies?idk,I also headcanon Wormmon and its armor evolution being relevant in Witchelny for this connection with the Wizarmon family and Impmon.

demonifications of the jungle troops muahahahah

 

[TMS]

Why ClavisAngemon specifically? I fail to see any resemblance.

In Revelation, Abaddon is the angel with the key to the abyss, which is what ClavisAngemon appears to be a reference to.

 

[JR9386]

Why ClavisAngemon specifically? I fail to see any resemblance.

In Revelation, Abaddon is the angel with the key to the abyss, which is what ClavisAngemon appears to be a reference to.

If I may be honest, the concept behind ClavisAngemon always reminds me of the Tin Man from "Return to Oz". I picture him being clumsy and clunky.

 

[gerocabral]

Doing my usual job of showcasing the obvious lines,alongside with my more original ideas of a new digimon,being now Zanmetsumons turn
Tell me what you think!