Random Commentary on Evolutionary Relationships V.5

[Geode]

If Coronamon and Shoutmon was in Digimon Survive depend on the routes what would there branching (harmony, wrathful, and moral) lines be?

 

[gerocabral]

Shoutmon

harmony
Shoutmon king-OmegaShoutmon-Shoutmon DX-Shoutmon X7 Superior mode

wrathful
DeadlyAxemon-DarkKnightmon-DarknessBagramon

moral
Veedramon(red)-Vritramon-Ancientgreymon-KaiserGreymon

 

[Muur]

Shoutmon

harmony
Shoutmon king-OmegaShoutmon-Shoutmon DX-Shoutmon X7 Superior mode

wrathful
DeadlyAxemon-DarkKnightmon-DarknessBagramon

moral
Veedramon(red)-Vritramon-Ancientgreymon-KaiserGreymon

burninggreymon is not vaccine so wouldn't qualify for moral. nor is kaisergreymon for that matter

 

[Geode]

Shoutmon

harmony
Shoutmon king-OmegaShoutmon-Shoutmon DX-Shoutmon X7 Superior mode

wrathful
DeadlyAxemon-DarkKnightmon-DarknessBagramon

moral
Veedramon(red)-Vritramon-Ancientgreymon-KaiserGreymon

burninggreymon is not vaccine so wouldn't qualify for moral. nor is kaisergreymon for that matter

Technically burninggreymon and Kaisergreymon were vaccines in the old Booster Pack back in 2005.

 

[gerocabral]

I wanted to make a fire themed line for Togemon X because of the flame coming out of its mouth,and I thought of Ghostmon with the black eyes and the hat,and then I immediatly thought of Pumpmon,also ghost themed and pumking glow 'cause of the fire inside of them so I like it.NoblePumpmon follows the hat theme of the first two.

 

[Muur]

Shoutmon

harmony
Shoutmon king-OmegaShoutmon-Shoutmon DX-Shoutmon X7 Superior mode

wrathful
DeadlyAxemon-DarkKnightmon-DarknessBagramon

moral
Veedramon(red)-Vritramon-Ancientgreymon-KaiserGreymon

burninggreymon is not vaccine so wouldn't qualify for moral. nor is kaisergreymon for that matter

Technically burninggreymon and Kaisergreymon were vaccines in the old Booster Pack back in 2005.

That's not relevant though when Survive and most stuff in the last 10 years have used only their Reference Book Attributes. Being Vaccine in a card game that doens't use the non standard attributes doesn't mean a Survive 2 would make these guys regular Attributes. GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon were Free in Survive. Burning/Kaiser were Free in Cyber Sleuth and ReArise. They do not fit in Moral and if they were going to make dudes one of the three main Attributes then those two wouldn't have been Free in Survive - but they were.

 

[Bancho]

so if GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon were allowed to be free, why can't Burning and Kaiser be allowed to be free attribute Moral route evolutions?

 

[gerocabral]

Shoutmon

harmony
Shoutmon king-OmegaShoutmon-Shoutmon DX-Shoutmon X7 Superior mode

wrathful
DeadlyAxemon-DarkKnightmon-DarknessBagramon

moral
Veedramon(red)-Vritramon-Ancientgreymon-KaiserGreymon

burninggreymon is not vaccine so wouldn't qualify for moral. nor is kaisergreymon for that matter

Technically burninggreymon and Kaisergreymon were vaccines in the old Booster Pack back in 2005.

That's not relevant though when Survive and most stuff in the last 10 years have used only their Reference Book Attributes. Being Vaccine in a card game that doens't use the non standard attributes doesn't mean a Survive 2 would make these guys regular Attributes. GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon were Free in Survive. Burning/Kaiser were Free in Cyber Sleuth and ReArise. They do not fit in Moral and if they were going to make dudes one of the three main Attributes then those two wouldn't have been Free in Survive - but they were.

Vritramon and KaiserGreymon are not free attribute tho,they are variable, so I took variable in a literal sense and just made them work as vaccine for this scenario in specific,it's really not that serious tho.

 

[Lord Bearmon]

so if GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon were allowed to be free, why can't Burning and Kaiser be allowed to be free attribute Moral route evolutions?

because GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon aren't Moral route evolutions, only the Greymon line is.

 

[IndustrialPanic]

Some lines based on the Loogamon DIM leak. Spoilers below

Spoiler: Loogamon evo spoilers

 

[gerocabral]

this are my takes.

Spoiler: Loogamon evolutions

 

[Muur]

so if GranKuwagamon and BanchoStingmon were allowed to be free, why can't Burning and Kaiser be allowed to be free attribute Moral route evolutions?

Because Moral is Vaccine. Vaccine doesn't even exist in the game, the Attributes are Moral, Harmony, Wrath, and Free. If going with what the other recent games did, i.e. Cyber Sleuth - BurningGreymon would fall under Free. Unlike previous stuff that didn't give a shit, recent stuff only uses DRB attributes. If they were gonna piss about with Attributes they would've changed MasterTyrannomon to Data so he could be used in the Harmony route...but they didn't, cuz he's Vaccine/Moral.

 

[Bancho]

nah I think they're Moral Free types

 

[The Chaos Entity]

nah I think they're Moral Free types

Moral, Harmonious, and Wrathful are just the Survive names for Vaccine, Data, and Virus, in the same way that Kemonogami is the Survive name for Digimon.

What you’re saying is the same as saying ‘nah, I think they’re Vaccine Free types’.

 

[TMS]

You guys care a hell of a lot more about The Rules (TM) than Bandai or the other companies involved in the franchise ever will. Geode asked the question, and he’s apparently fine with using the Warriors of Flame as Vaccine Digimon. Stop being a bunch of buzz-kills. At least offer an alternative.

 

[The Chaos Entity]

I don’t personally consider pointing out correct attributes - which Bandai have been subscribing to pretty strictly in the games for years now - as being ‘a buzz kill’, and it wasn’t Geode who posited the idea about treating them as Vaccine in any case (although he difd defend it).

In the interest of offering alternatives, though, I think Canoweissmon and Slayerdramon work as a ‘Moral Route’ for Shoutmon through RedVeedramon. If the idea is to retain a warm colour palette, though, then Vermilimon and Goldramon could be good ideas.

Alternatively, if replacing RedVeedramon is an option, then BetelGammamon - Asuramon - Marsmon and Arresterdramon - Cyberdramon - Dynasmon would be my suggestions.

Finally, I’d the idea is to have an Ultra at the end, then I’d replace Marsmon in the above example with Apollomon, then use GraceNovamon.

 

[gerocabral]

if we are being strict with attributes,Vermilimon is Data,and RiseGreymon could be an option too,tho I do like Canoweissmon as an option.

 

[The Chaos Entity]

if we are being strict with attributes,Vermilimon is Data,and RiseGreymon could be an option too,tho I do like Canoweissmon as an option.

I forgot Vermilimon wasn’t Vaccine outside of Digimon World - thanks for the correction.

 

[Geode]

I also been thinking of the evolution branching lines for Gabumon, in Survive Gabumon and MetalGarurumon are Data's but Garurumon and Weregarurumon are Vaccines but then I read there both Vaccine and Data except Vaccine comes from the reference book and Data is from Ultimate Battle Deck cards while MetalGarurumon's Vaccine is from Pendulum Cycle Version 8.

Hope they give these lines in a possible Survive sequel.

 

[Bancho]

@Geode I love those Gabumon lines! The data one feels unexpected in a line together but I love Drimogemon, Pandamon, and Marsmon and having an unexpected line is fun