Pokemon Vs. Digimon Death Battle

[MarcFBR]

Screwattack did one of their popular Death Battle videos featuring Pokemon Vs. Digimon.

Death Battle is where they take 2 characters from different franchise and animate a battle between the characters using (in theory) accurate information from various sources.

Video embedded for your enjoyment above.

While we do have a dedicated Pokemon Vs. Digimon thread. I figured having a dedicated topic to discuss the video makes sense.

The featured characters for the Vs. is Pokemon Trainer Red and Charizard vs. Taichi and Agumon.

No spoiler tags in this thread, so if you read past this post, make sure you've watched the video.

 

[CloneWarrior]

Wow, Taichi and Agumon were super out of character during that fight. Agumon attacked Charizard first despite having absolutely no idea what was going on and they straight up killed a human and what they believed to be a Digimon without ever even asking why they were fighting.

I mean, it's definitely logical that Digimon wins out here, but it's kind of a nonsensical comparison in the first place. Pokemon is essentially a sport series. Pokemon vs. Digimon is like having Dragon Ball characters face off with people from Kuroko's Basketball.

Also some nitpicks from the intro:

They get the year Adventure takes place in wrong, saying Taichi went to summer camp in 1995.

They claim that Agumon and his evolutions are "weak to earth elemental attacks." Where did that come from?

And in reference to SkullGreymon, they claim that "Tai started out as kind of a selfish dick" prior to character development and that he "tried to trick Greymon into evolving further."

Taichi forcing Greymon to evolve wasn't a character trait he started with. He was reacting to a sudden escalation in the villains' power levels and was desperate to find a way to beat Etemon. And I don't see how forcing Agumon to overeat and yelling at him to evolve is "tricking" him.

 

[Jmac28211]

A couple of things:
First off, loved the video. I was worried you all were going to keep him in his Greymon form. While I'm fine with Charizard getting all of those moves, it was not ok to put Triple Finish on that list. Also, if you were going to use the Agumon line's weakness from the Story/World games, you should have given him access to his abilities like Heroic Power and Heroic Guard as well, as Megazard was allowed access to his ability.
I also think that Charizard should have met his end during WarGreymon's first barrage of claw attacks. Still an enjoyable Death Battle though.

In regard to Tai being out of character, I believe that it was in character for him to punch Red (see Tai vs Matt), and Red and Charizard dying can be attributed to the fact that it was a Death Battle.

 

[MarcFBR]

I was worried you all
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As mentioned in the first post this is made by ScrewAttack. This was not made by us.

 

[CoDL]

A couple of things:
First off, loved the video. I was worried you all were going to keep him in his Greymon form. While I'm fine with Charizard getting all of those moves, it was not ok to put Triple Finish on that list. Also, if you were going to use the Agumon line's weakness from the Story/World games, you should have given him access to his abilities like Heroic Power and Heroic Guard as well, as Megazard was allowed access to his ability.
I also think that Charizard should have met his end during WarGreymon's first barrage of claw attacks. Still an enjoyable Death Battle though.

In regard to Tai being out of character, I believe that it was in character for him to punch Red (see Tai vs Matt), and Red and Charizard dying can be attributed to the fact that it was a Death Battle.

Yeah, Taichi punched Yamato, but Yamato was a friend and Taichi actually had a valid reason to punch him. Here, he walks up to Red, whines "Stop hurting my friend! Call off your dragon!" and then punches him. That is out of character for Taichi, who 1) believes in his partner's ability to overcome tough situations and 2) isn't the kind to solve problems with violence on his own part (well, he kind of was in Adventure with Yamato).
My thoughts:
I also didn't know where the weakness to earth was coming from, but that didn't really come into play a whole lot except for the Rock Smash bit. Disappointed we didn't see MetalGreymon but I'm ok with it. I also agree with CloneWarrior's nitpicks. Every single one of them. Details are important.
Oh well at least now I've convinced a friend that digimon would win in a fight (although he hasn't conceded on legendary Pokémon yet which I agree could go either way).

 

[Sabrblade]

I wish we could have seen MetalGreymon go up against Charizard for a bit before the WarGreymon/Mega Charizard X portion of the fight.

Though, Nova Blast and Nova Flame are the same attack. The dub just gave the Greymon and Agumon in the first movie different attack names for some reason.

 

[Hagaren Gao]

Jeez, we get a nicely choreographed fight video and all we can talk about is how they got some details wrong? Really now? Have a little fun with the thing!

I had fun with it overall. Todd Haberkorn as Tai is amusing, though he was my least favorite of the voices. I actually liked what we heard of Agumon a little better than the show proper, it came off more natural and less strained. Loved the pokeball gags too.

The ending was definitely over the top and out of nowhere though, if they were going to do a fatality at the end they may as well had put some blood here and there in the battle proper.

 

[cometoruin]

Jeez, we get a nicely choreographed fight video and all we can talk about is how they got some details wrong? Really now? Have a little fun with the thing!

I had fun with it overall. Todd Haberkorn as Tai is amusing, though he was my least favorite of the voices. I actually liked what we heard of Agumon a little better than the show proper, it came off more natural and less strained. Loved the pokeball gags too.

The ending was definitely over the top and out of nowhere though, if they were going to do a fatality at the end they may as well had put some blood here and there in the battle proper.

Well considering the basis for the choreographed fight is in facts/collected data about each character's abilities (strengths, weaknesses, what they are), it can be a little jarring to see some things pop up from out of nowhere? I do agree w/ you on the ending though, that seemed excessive and while I know it's a death match, it just felt odd and out of place since there wasn't much in the way of blood/gore in the earlier part of the battle.

That said: I liked the animation bit, though overall I don't really like these sorts of X vs Y things. Almost makes me feel bad for Charizard, that's a nasty end, but I've always figured if you did end up pitting a Pokemon against a Digimon, the results would lean in the Digimon's favor simply based on how evolution is a bit more flexible and (in the case of Adventure) can make a Digimon OP pretty quick if circumstances allow it. I admittedly muted it after they talked stats, so no comments on the voice acting, but the fight was pretty well choreographed and I did like Charizard's Mega Evolution being a callback to the anime scene. Nice touch.

 

[Spongebond]

I enjoyed it. 'Twas a fun watch.

 

[Dianne Renard]

I'm surprised the initial great tornado didn't turn mega charizard into mincemeat, that thing could cut through metalseadramon's best move and utterly annihilate him. And just like I expected, Wargreymon was total overkill, they should've used metalgreymon instead to keep it fair

 

[Angel-kun]

Death Battles, means that they battle until one of the sides dies. If you don't understand this, you are going to feel everybody out of character. All videos have heroes that don't kill, but we are supposing that the characters on these videos are going to kill their opponent.

 

[Touya]

I thought it was weird that they had a circa-BW2 Red versus Adventure-era Tai. I figured they would have used tri. Tai for this fight, to match the "most recent canon" version of Red.

No surprise at the outcome, but I'll echo the sentiment about Tai stepping in and the ending both feeling pretty dissonant. All this over a marshmallow?

 

[Sabrblade]

Jeez, we get a nicely choreographed fight video and all we can talk about is how they got some details wrong? Really now? Have a little fun with the thing!

They always give us nicely choreographed fight videos. That's to be expected of them. But they also have a history of getting some of their data facts wrong and so we naturally feel compelled to call them out on it, especially considering that the media they refer to for their research is so readily available for anyone and everyone to view and double-check.

 

[metalmamemon]

I thought it was weird that they had a circa-BW2 Red versus Adventure-era Tai. I figured they would have used tri. Tai for this fight, to match the "most recent canon" version of Red.

They use the characters at their prime, and as of the release of the first OVA, Tai and Agumon have never been stronger than at the end of adventure. That plus they could use his 3D model from the Digimon adventure psp game, I guess

 

[saifors]

For those who don't know, in one of the Death battle live talks they mentioned that they kept to canon as much as possible except for one thing:
The characters try to kill each other.
And one of the two (Chad, who plays the boomstick persona) always tries to come up with a more brutal death every time.
The animation was great as always, still question why they used the models of Adventure PSP instead of the Digimon Masters models, there's even one for Tai.

 

[wildwing64]

I had a feeling the marshmallow was going to play into the fight once it was Tweeted. Buuut not as much as I thought. I thought they would have played with Agumon inevitably being crippled by his own hunger. But then again, that stopped being an issue as Adventure progressed, so there's that.

Spoiler

I laughed so hard after Red threw the Pokeball at Greymon, there were some brilliant gags in there and that was easily the crowning moment of funny.

A little disappointed in MetalGreymon not being used (go figure, lol) but then maybe that would have messed with the pacing of the battle.

Spoiler

After all, Red pulled out all the stops with Mega Charizard quite early on.

 

[kkanbara]

I liked it up until the ending, but I guess that's what we expect for something called a Death Battle.

The Digimon team sprites were taken straight from the PSP game and I loved the PSP game. The initial marshmallow content was so random too haha.
I didn't know they had an anime with Red though so now I have to go watch that.

Thanks for posting!

 

[Unknown Neo]

I did say I thought this was their nerdiest pick for a fight ever but as of the actual fight, I have no issue about it. It explained it well enough and it does kind of show differences in the evolutions in both series. 100% ok with this fight.

 

[Bartz]

Aside from the nitpicks mentioned earlier, it was an enjoyable fight. The action and animation was well done and the conclusion did make sense and was completely expected (sorry Mega Charizard X, but Wargreymon is way out of your league), so I don't have too many complaints with it.

Jeez, we get a nicely choreographed fight video and all we can talk about is how they got some details wrong? Really now? Have a little fun with the thing!

They always give us nicely choreographed fight videos. That's to be expected of them. But they also have a history of getting some of their data facts wrong and so we naturally feel compelled to call them out on it, especially considering that the media they refer to for their research is so readily available for anyone and everyone to view and double-check.

Pretty much, and that has gotten them in trouble with certain matches (IIRC, Link vs. Cloud gets a lot of heat for that). Luckily though, the points mentioned here didn't have an effect on the actual battle so neither Greymon or Charizard lost any necessary abilities that would've tipped the scales, though that still should be doubled-checked.

 

[Sabrblade]

I'm also surprised that MetalGreymon didn't appear when Boomstick said that it's his favorite form. One would think that he'd try to work his favorite one into the fight, right?