Meiko Replaces Ken?

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I haven't read through each and every post, so forgive me if this has already been addressed in the thread, but in rewatching the film last night, and taking the Tri-series as a whole, I can't help but think that Meiko was intended to replace Ken within the Adventure-verse. That might be reaching, but rather, have her become the "dark Digidestined" of the group.

I was chatting with an acquaintance who did a recolor of her digivice based on this poster:

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I took the position that her digivice turning black was it being in its natural state, along with her "crest"burning a bright red (It's what I call "Libra". The "crest"of Justice.) or at most a blood red. Her role, as I understood it, was always to keep Chaos in check, by it effectively being its keeper, whereas Gatomon is Cosmos, and keeper of the Light.

But here, in this poster, she's almost counted as "The Ninth Child", a position formerly held by Ken. Her digivice glows the color of Ken's crest, she has the same shy and thoughtful persona as him, and to top it all off a similar troubled digidestined backstory.

Could this have been where they were intending to go with her, to seal the deal by having her Jogress with a core digidestined?
 
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Hmmm, if that is the case then it might explain why Dark Gennai had the form of the Digi Keiser. He was actually meant to be the actuall Ken having decided to stay bad this time.
 

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...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?
 

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Hmmm, if that is the case then it might explain why Dark Gennai had the form of the Digi Keiser. He was actually meant to be the actuall Ken having decided to stay bad this time.

That whole scene confuses me to be honest.

No sense of remorse is felt by the original Team in taking down Imperialdramon. In that scene, at least from my rewatch of the dub, it's taken so lightly. He's Ken, that's the Imperialdramon they know, but yeah, let's destroy them! That's why I'm at a loss for why they felt remorse with the decision to take down Meicoomon. I want to know whether there was a revision of the script or something to that effect.


I mean, I think they did with Meiko exactly what they wanted to do with Meiko.

But what exactly was Meiko's purpose in the pan-Adventure verse?

As I understand it, she's among that unique class of original digidestined chosen by Homeostasis. She may have been kept away from the core group until her time came, but she was partnered with the very Digimon meant to unleash havoc on both worlds.

Was she chosen by Homeostasis, or by Ydradsil? Forgive me, but I'm not acquainted with the lore of the tore, only that Ydrasil is deemed a Demiruge.

...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?

I'm not sure that she'd retroactively be added to A2020. Theoretically they *could*, but the nostalgia concerning her character isn't there to the same degree. Anniversary edition animes are really just meant to sell reissued merchandise and a limited amount of new merchandise tied to the anniversary edition of the anime. But it would likewise throw off them "learning from the mistakes" they made with the original Adventure. Speaking of mistakes, not that I am claiming 02 was a mistake, but if ever they elected to reboot it, they'd likely have to approach Armor evolution from a different angle if at all. We already see that Patamon can achieve it without a digimental. But that isn't the problem, per se, but rather that the base species for certain Armored forms are present in abundance in the Digital World of A2020. We've seen quite a few of them throughout. So there would be no use in declaring them rare and unique Digimon species capable of Armor evolving, when it would appear that it's relatively common.
 

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But what exactly was Meiko's purpose in the pan-Adventure verse?

As I understand it, she's among that unique class of original digidestined chosen by Homeostasis. She may have been kept away from the core group until her time came, but she was partnered with the very Digimon meant to unleash havoc on both worlds.

Was she chosen by Homeostasis, or by Ydradsil? Forgive me, but I'm not acquainted with the lore of the tore, only that Ydrasil is deemed a Demiruge.

We were told that Meiko's purpose was to act as a partner to Maicoomon, hopefully preventing her from going berserk. If you're asking why Meiko specifically was chosen, I doubt there was any special reason. Someone had to be the one, and she happened to draw the short stick.

All Chosen Children in the Adventure universe are chosen by Homeostasis after coming into some sort of contact with Digimon. There's no real indication that Yggdrasill ever had its own Chosen Children. Even in its appearances in other universes, it rarely summons Tamers to the Digital World. I think Digimon Next is the only instance of it.
 

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But what exactly was Meiko's purpose in the pan-Adventure verse?

As I understand it, she's among that unique class of original digidestined chosen by Homeostasis. She may have been kept away from the core group until her time came, but she was partnered with the very Digimon meant to unleash havoc on both worlds.

Was she chosen by Homeostasis, or by Ydradsil? Forgive me, but I'm not acquainted with the lore of the tore, only that Ydrasil is deemed a Demiruge.

We were told that Meiko's purpose was to act as a partner to Maicoomon, hopefully preventing her from going berserk. If you're asking why Meiko specifically was chosen, I doubt there was any special reason. Someone had to be the one, and she happened to draw the short stick.

All Chosen Children in the Adventure universe are chosen by Homeostasis after coming into some sort of contact with Digimon. There's no real indication that Yggdrasill ever had its own Chosen Children. Even in its appearances in other universes, it rarely summons Tamers to the Digital World. I think Digimon Next is the only instance of it.

Thanks for this!

I suppose that's what got me confused, but I will have to watch more closely during my rewatch. I thought that when Kari is possessed by Homeostasis, it was implied that Meicoomon was intended for that purpose, but Meiko was to make sure that she didn't trigger it unnecessarily. I suppose she failed in that regard, but not really her fault as she had to contend with Maki and Dark Gennai.

I read somewhere here that Gatomon becoming Ofanimon Reaper Mode (I know she's called Falldown Mode, but I can't help but see her role as a sort of figure of judgement. Not necessarily evil, but rather that she meets out the judgement due to each.), wasn't intended and caught Dark Gennai off-guard. What was Dark Gennai expecting her to become? Would she have still jogressed with Raguelmon and become Ordinemon, or something else? Not that there is an answer to that, but I'm just trying to figure out whether Meicoomon is rightly understood to serve that purpose if she's to be counted as a quasi original Adventure Chosen Child. Namely that she doesn't necessarily become Rasielmon (Bond of Light... Kidding, but the design is worse than Jester Rabbit Cherubimon. Nothing about it says angel other than it being named for an angel.), but is able to thrust the Worlds into Chaos or Cosmos, hence the theme of Justice (Libra) and Creation (The reboot she ushers.). Not quite fan-fic territory, but speculation on where she fits into the narrative of Adventure.
 

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I agree that Fall-Down Mode wasn't planned by the Mysterious Man and company. They may have expected Raguelmon to be the one to destroy the world, or to reach a further form on her own due to Apocalymon's data.
 

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I agree that Fall-Down Mode wasn't planned by the Mysterious Man and company. They may have expected Raguelmon to be the one to destroy the world, or to reach a further form on her own due to Apocalymon's data.

I know that there is no way of knowing this, but I wonder if Ofanimon's appearance is what disallowed things from getting too out of hand.
 

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Huh... Oh hey. Maybe using AP-mon's data could be a way to fit Meicomon in. If they're going to use him at the end. Or maybe even fit in Mille's data instead.
 

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...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?
I mean Rasielmon IS one of the Holy Digimon, so Meiko joining in eventually isn't totally out of the realm of possibility.
 

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...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?
I mean Rasielmon IS one of the Holy Digimon, so Meiko joining in eventually isn't totally out of the realm of possibility.

That only works if we assume that Rasielmom *is* her intended natural progression and Raguelmon is her corrupted progression.

I'm still undecided on that part, because as I headcanon it, Meiko and Meicoomon are meant to keep the balance of Justice in the Digital World. Raguelmon wasn't a Dark Digivolution, per se, but the verdict of Judgement between for both worlds.
 

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...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?
I mean Rasielmon IS one of the Holy Digimon, so Meiko joining in eventually isn't totally out of the realm of possibility.

That only works if we assume that Rasielmom *is* her intended natural progression and Raguelmon is her corrupted progression.

I'm still undecided on that part, because as I headcanon it, Meiko and Meicoomon are meant to keep the balance of Justice in the Digital World. Raguelmon wasn't a Dark Digivolution, per se, but the verdict of Judgement between for both worlds.
Um, according to Digimon canon, Rasielmon is indeed the good form and Raguelmon is the bad form.
 

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...I like her and that might have been interesting. ...I still joke that she should be added into new Adventure. They're doing a lot of new things so... Why not?
I mean Rasielmon IS one of the Holy Digimon, so Meiko joining in eventually isn't totally out of the realm of possibility.

That only works if we assume that Rasielmom *is* her intended natural progression and Raguelmon is her corrupted progression.

I'm still undecided on that part, because as I headcanon it, Meiko and Meicoomon are meant to keep the balance of Justice in the Digital World. Raguelmon wasn't a Dark Digivolution, per se, but the verdict of Judgement between for both worlds.
Um, according to Digimon canon, Rasielmon is indeed the good form and Raguelmon is the bad form.

But look at their profiles closely in light of the purpose Meiko has. She can go either way, though I'm inclined to believe that Raguelmon is her natural progression.

Mind you, I don't like either design choice, so I don't have much of a stake in the matter, but seriously, so much thought goes into the Demon lord Digimon, but the angels make no sense design wise, with a few exceptions.
 

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I'm just annoyed I got the "evil" evo in ReArise and not the good one. But hey, if she is a Holy Mon, then why not? Why added Kari real quick so we could do an added child thing here. ...I just like Meiko.
 

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Interesting idea... It would have made for an interesting plotline with "fake Ken" actually being real Ken trying to take down what he saw as an imposter maybe? Honestly I doubt there was ever much integration of 02 ideas, they were so blatantly disrespected I doubt they ever carried any real weight in the story besides the way they do now
 
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