If OmegaShoutmon had a Level what would it be?

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I know that OmegaShoutmon has no level but if he did have a level what would it be he seems too powerful to be a champion as had defeated Tactimon a Mega Level Digimon. Could he be a ultimate or Mega level for Shoutmon. In Digimon Next Order he is classified as a Champion Level but to me he is just too powerful to be a Champion
 

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OmegaShoutmon does have a level now, actually. He's an Adult that happens to be more powerful than is standard. Magnamon is usually depicted the same way.
 

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I'd classify him as an ultimate, since Shoutmon refers to him as his "Chou Shinka" or Super Evolution. I know that the term may differ in the Xros Wars universe, but at least in the Adventure universe that's how it's used.

Edit; Didn't know that Xros Wars characters are being given levels now interesting. I thought they were non-existent in Xros Wars.
 

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Some of them have been given levels in media outside of Xros Wars. Next Order, for example, classified Shoutmon and Gumdramon as Child-level and OmegaShoutmon and Arresterdramon as Adult-level.
 

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i would say just treat it as it´s own thing, Xrosmon > super evolved Xrosmon
or else you just end up in a pointless discussion
 

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In the Hyper Colosseum Omega Shoutmon is a Perfect level equivalent or Perfect-class, same as Zeke Greymon. They are similar to the Hybrid Digimon in this respect.

Interestingly however, they fuse into Shoutmon DX who is also a Perfect level equivalent. Because they are an equivalent, rather than an actual level classification, they cannot evolve the way normal Digimon do, such as with the use of Winning Percentage Option cards or anything allowing you to evolve/fuse/appear into a Digimon of the next level or a Digimon with the same name. Something like Re-44 'Xros Loader' is needed that specifically mentions an equivalent class.

In Digimon Crusader Omega Shoutmon is an Ultimate level equivalent, but an Adult equivalent in Next Order so it varies depending on the source. It certainly is on par with Perfect-level Digimon seeing that it is blessed with the "Omega InForce" from the Holy Knight Omegamon.
 

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I believe that OmegaShoutmon is Adult in Next Order, period, though if someone has played the game and can correct me please do. The Crusader levels cited by Wikimon are probably inaccurate, since they were given only by the Japanese Crusader wiki, which later emended all of the Xros Wars Digimon to actually having no level. It's very likely that Adult-level and Perfect-class are the only two ways OmegaShoutmon has been classified besides having no level.
 

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I believe that OmegaShoutmon is Adult in Next Order, period, though if someone has played the game and can correct me please do.
Haven't played Next Order myself, but for what it's worth I recall reading somewhere that the amount of time it takes for Shoutmon and Gumdramon to evolve is about the same as it is for normal Digimon to progress from their Child to Mega forms.

But then, that might just be a game mechanic that has nothing to do with their power level.

In Digimon Next Order he is classified as a Champion Level but to me he is just too powerful to be a Champion
OmegaShoutmon is overpowered for a Champion/Adult level Digimon, but then he was also nerfed in Xros Wars Young Hunters. Mind you we also have Mega level Digimon such as Jijimon, Babamon, and MarineAngemon who seem way underpowered compared to other Mega Digimon.

Could just be that OmegaShoutmon is simply an overpowered Adult that doesn't evolve any further. Like TMS said, Magnamon was basically treated the same way.

I'd classify him as an ultimate, since Shoutmon refers to him as his "Chou Shinka" or Super Evolution. I know that the term may differ in the Xros Wars universe, but at least in the Adventure universe that's how it's used.
Right, but when he evolves for the first time he simply says "Shinka". He later describes it as being like a super evolution, so he starts saying "Chou Shinka" instead. If anything the use of the Adventure terminology was more of a throwback than actually being the same thing. There are more inconsistencies like Dracmon "super evolving" to Yasyamon, who is normally an Armor Digimon. Or Damemon "super evolving" to Tuwarmon, when prior to Young Hunters it was more of a transformation or mode change.
 

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"Super Evolution" in Xros Wars was really just the characters' way to refer to the kind of quick, temporary evolution that we've been seeing partner Digimon undergo since Adventure, as opposed to the slow, natural, permanent evolution that non-partner Digimon undergo. As used in Xros Wars it doesn't have any implication so far as what level a Digimon evolves from or to.
 

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I don't think Digimon DO evolve in XW (outside of Baby -> Baby 2 -> Child) and they just stay as Child level, until they learned to Xros/Fuse or do whatever Shoutmon did. That means all Adult-Ultimate level Digimon are Child level and can only get stronger if they Fuse.
 

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No, they evolve. Tactimon mentions how long it took him to attain his current form, and in the manga Bagramon talks about how evolution used to be common.
 

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I don't think Digimon DO evolve in XW (outside of Baby -> Baby 2 -> Child) and they just stay as Child level, until they learned to Xros/Fuse or do whatever Shoutmon did. That means all Adult-Ultimate level Digimon are Child level and can only get stronger if they Fuse.
Evolution within Xros Wars isn't the same thing as what happens in the other animes - it's a short-hand for aging-as-a-continuous-process, not a clear-cut series of metamorphoses (see Shoutmon in XW contra in Hunters, Cutemon's parents, Baalmon in the flashback; all three/four are specifically the same but older).
 

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OmegaShoutmon does have a level now, actually. He's an Adult that happens to be more powerful than is standard. Magnamon is usually depicted the same way.
Magnamon is armour with the power of a mega.

Omegashoutman is a warp evolution to mega. You can't be a champion and defeat a mega, that'd mean if he became a mega he'd be the most powerful Digimon to ever live.
 

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OmegaShoutmon does have a level now, actually. He's an Adult that happens to be more powerful than is standard. Magnamon is usually depicted the same way.
Magnamon is armour with the power of a mega.

Omegashoutman is a warp evolution to mega. You can't be a champion and defeat a mega, that'd mean if he became a mega he'd be the most powerful Digimon to ever live.
Lucemon in child form is far above many megas, your point is?
 

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OmegaShoutmon does have a level now, actually. He's an Adult that happens to be more powerful than is standard. Magnamon is usually depicted the same way.
Magnamon is armour with the power of a mega.

Omegashoutman is a warp evolution to mega. You can't be a champion and defeat a mega, that'd mean if he became a mega he'd be the most powerful Digimon to ever live.
Lucemon in child form is far above many megas, your point is?
Lucemon is a demon lord. Omegashoutmon is a normal Digimon.
Why would a normal champion be as strong as a mega? just because the game says he is champion does not mean he actually is in the show.
 

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No, Lucemon isn't a Demon Lord, it's a Child-level Angel Digimon. OmegaShoutmon isn't exactly a "normal" Digimon, since it was given its power by one of the Royal Knights. But anyway, I don't see why Magnamon is allowed to be an Ultimate-powered Adult while OmegaShoutmon isn't.
 

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For whatever it's worth, OmniShoutmon's Re- card has evo requirements of both Shoutmon and Omnimon and carries the Omega InForce. Given that Magnamon has been given a number of classifications (Armor, Champion, Ultimate, and Mega), I see no reason why OmniShoutmon can't have different-level variants. It would be far from a precedent.

Evolutionarily, OmniShoutmon really is Shoutmon's second stage. Was there something in the Digital World's operating system that was screwing with level data as well as the avility to evolve? *shrug* Would a more familiar Digital World's OS render him as a different level? *shrugs again* In terms of abilities, OmniShoutmon's powerful, but he's still not exactly clean-cut.

In the TCG, OmniShoutmon's attacks are slightly stronger than those of Magnamon. Comparing to the Greymon line, this is between early MetalGreymon and WarGreymon. However, this is also rather comparable to Greymon's Re-71 card. What with level creep, the Ultimate(Perfect)-class designation makes a lot of sense, but any of the three levels in question would be logical for varying reasons. If I were just using these cards, though, I'd really hold off on a definitive designation as a Mega as these stats are still lower than MarineAngemon. For reference, Shoutmon X7's Re-41 card gives him more power than we've ever seen from even the likes of Huanglongmon. Of course, X7 Superior Mode doesn't show nearly as much of an OP boost as logic or math might suggest, but that's another can of Wormmons.
 

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No, Lucemon isn't a Demon Lord, it's a Child-level Angel Digimon. OmegaShoutmon isn't exactly a "normal" Digimon, since it was given its power by one of the Royal Knights. But anyway, I don't see why Magnamon is allowed to be an Ultimate-powered Adult while OmegaShoutmon isn't.
To clarify, only Lucemon's Chaos Mode is treated as a Demon Lord. And technically all three of Lucemon's main stages, not counting Larva, are overpowered for their Levels: The Rookie stage is equal to a Champion, Chaos Mode is Ultimate/Perfect but equal to a Mega, and Shadowlord Mode is Mega but equal to an Ultra.
 

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Actually, Lucemon's profile says that its power surpasses that of a Perfect-level Digimon.
 

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I feel like this is like Minotarumon and Whamon where the species has multiple Levels.
 
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