How to reboot Digimon Adventure 02 with the new one?

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Function isn’t the same as motivation/origin. She had a function but if there was nothing tech related going on there were no stories to tell with her.
 

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Digimon has always and still is an episodic series, and that's not a bad thing. The Devimon arc has little connection to the Etemon arc which has little connection to Vamdemon...

The fact that Adventure's villains are unrelated to one another is completely irrelevant to the story of 02, so you can't really use them to make that point about 02.

I'm also not sure what you mean by "episodic", since even in Adventure most episodes within an arc are about that arc. Adventure never had a status quo, but 02 starts with a status quo of "the emperor is trying to take over the digital world and the kids have to stop him by breaking spires" and only changes that status quo with arcs.

BelialVamdemon's illusions were definitely in character for Miyako who dreamed of being special in comparison to his family. While Takeru doesn't "need" Yamato and his father anymore, it's natural for him to still wish for his family to be together. Because of how being a DigiDestined works, there's always the chance that the kids can be separated with their Digimon. Of course Hikari would want a future where she and Tailmon don't need to be separated.

You misunderstand me. I didn't say that it was invalid for Miyako, Takeru, and Hikari to care about those things, but that it was unprecedented. Miyako, Takeru, and Hikari are never shown angsting about those things in the series before that point.

(You also got Hikari's fantasy wrong--it's not that she gets to keep Tailmon, it's that everyone in the world gets a digimon partner and lives in peace and harmony).

If they ever do reboot 02, I hope that Yolei is made more likeable. She was insufferable to me.

Not that they need to present her as a neglected child, but that seems more in keeping with Sora's character than her faux Mimi rants. I'm not saying that Sora was neglected, but as the bearer of both Love and Sincerity, they needed to spend more time with her away from the action as they did in Tamers to develop their characters.
Miyako needed a reason to be there. Daisuke was on the team because he worshipped Taichi. Ken, Takeru, and Hikari were there because they went to the Digital World as young children. Iori was there because of his father.

Miyako was there to be a new girl.

All of the others have better motivation than her. While Adventure 1 did have a series of mostly random kids with only Taichi and a Hikari having a distinctive origin story (with the other six just being in the neighborhood at the time) all of the 02 kids have a motivation except her.

I hadn't considered her in that way. Even then, she wasn't all that interesting in that respect. Was Meiko meant to be a replacement for Yolei, Ken, and Cody (New girl, Corrupted Digimon/Loner, Father involved with Digimon?).

Miyako seemed to also fill the tech specialist role similar to Koushiro. Though it wasn’t touched on nearly as much.

Yeah. She's the new girl and smart character. Since they had to combine characters. Cody was the new guy/young kid.
And yet she didn't get the Crest of Knowledge.

In retrospect, I see her as a better fit for Knowledge and Courage.
 

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Was Yolei that smart? Knowing tech isn't really a sign of great wisdom.
 

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Function isn’t the same as motivation/origin. She had a function but if there was nothing tech related going on there were no stories to tell with her.
Fair enough, but who was she beyond older digidestined (Joe), and new girl (Mimi) Reliably Sincere?
Was Yolei that smart? Knowing tech isn't really a sign of great wisdom.
True, however, I didn't find Cody particularly wise either. Prudent, yes, but not necessarily knowledgeable. I had a hard time with Cody, because of how boring I found him to be. Of course no one can replace Veemon, but Armadillomon would have probably been a better partner to Davis. Kotemon and Cody were made for one another.
 

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True, however, I didn't find Cody particularly wise either. Prudent, yes, but not necessarily knowledgeable. I had a hard time with Cody, because of how boring I found him to be. Of course no one can replace Veemon, but Armadillomon would have probably been a better partner to Davis. Kotemon and Cody were made for one another.
I found that charming about Iori. I think everyone has met at least one little kid with the personality of an weary old man.

Miyako’s origin was witnessing the Diablomon fight. If I was retelling the story I’d probably expand that into her being the one responsible for accidentally creating Kuramon by messing around with computer code. Like Menoa but mostly unintentional. Then making up for nearly accidentally blowing up the world becomes her motivation and that act gives her something in common with Ken.

If you wanted this to be a follow up to 2020, just replace Kuramon with Algomon 1.
 

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Something in common with Ken'd be nice. I to this day don't remember Ken ever returning her affections or understand why they ended up together. Kizuna never bringing it up didn't help.
 

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Something in common with Ken'd be nice. I to this day don't remember Ken ever returning her affections or understand why they ended up together. Kizuna never bringing it up didn't help.
The bearers of the Crest of Love are destined to end up with the troubled loners from the group?
 

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Yolei was the girl so she got the girl crests. I think I remember her saying some technobabble. So that's about as much as they might would do.
 

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I see a lot of talk about replacing partners, but at that point, just make a new show entirely.
I also don't see them changing lines. At all. Maybe adding to them, or getting rid of Armor Evolution entirely and making the former Armor Digimon alternate evos, now that A2020 has (finally) done it in an anime outside of Dark Evolution. I also don't see them changing the Perfect evolutions even without Jogress. Whenever I hear "non-Jogress lines" my mind just goes back to Digimon Story (Digimon World DS) where the Jogress result was just based on whichever Digimon was selected first (i.e. if you Jogress Ankylomon with Angemon you get Shakkoumon, but when you Jogress Angemon with Ankylomon you get HolyAngemon instead) so I tend to think of Jogress as just a shortcut to reach the next Evolution stage.

Personally, all I'd want from a 02(2021) is for Armadimon to get a personal Ultimate instead of sharing Vikemon, but the more likely story thread I see is something to do with the remaining 4 Holy Digimon. We know Patamon and Tailmon became Takeru and Hikari's partners respectively and we know Lopmon was reborn as well, but we haven't seen anything about ClavisAngemon, SlashAngemon, Valdurmon, or Rasielmon in the current age, and two of those still don't have "proper" lines.
 
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I see a lot of talk about replacing partners, but at that point, just make a new show entirely.
I also don't see them changing lines. At all. Maybe adding to them, or getting rid of Armor Evolution entirely and making the former Armor Digimon alternate evos, now that A2020 has (finally) done it in an anime outside of Dark Evolution. I also don't see them changing the Perfect evolutions even without Jogress. Whenever I hear "non-Jogress lines" my mind just goes back to Digimon Story (Digimon World DS) where the Jogress result was just based on whichever Digimon was selected first (i.e. if you Jogress Ankylomon with Angemon you get Shakkoumon, but when you Jogress Angemon with Ankylomon you get HolyAngemon instead) so I tend to think of Jogress as just a shortcut to reach the next Evolution stage.

Personally, all I'd want from a 02(2021) is for Armadimon to get a personal Ultimate instead of sharing Vikemon, but the more likely story thread I see is something to do with the remaining 4 Holy Digimon. We know Patamon and Tailmon became Takeru and Hikari's partners respectively and we know Lopmon was reborn as well, but we haven't seen anything about ClavisAngemon, SlashAngemon, Valdurmon, or Rasielmon in the current age, and two of those still don't have "proper" lines.
Retconning all of the 02 partners to Angelic Lines would be strange.

I could see SlashAngemon for Veemon, and potentially Valdurmon for Hawkmon, but ClavisAngemon for Armadillomon, and Rasielmon, for Wormmon? None of those remaining lines work for Wormmon, which is why I figured if they're going to keep Ken, might as well pair him with Lopmon to keep the Kindness vs. Fallen momentum going. That's assuming Ken ends up with a crest this time around.

Personally, I like the idea of them becoming the four sovereigns, but that still puts Wormmon in a strange position.

Baihumon for Gatomon
Zhuquaimon for Hawkmon
Ebonwomon for Aramadillomon
Azulongmon for Veemon

I don't recall the name of the golden dragon, but I don't think that fits Wormmon. Possibly Patamon,though.
 

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I see a lot of talk about replacing partners, but at that point, just make a new show entirely.
I also don't see them changing lines. At all. Maybe adding to them, or getting rid of Armor Evolution entirely and making the former Armor Digimon alternate evos, now that A2020 has (finally) done it in an anime outside of Dark Evolution. I also don't see them changing the Perfect evolutions even without Jogress. Whenever I hear "non-Jogress lines" my mind just goes back to Digimon Story (Digimon World DS) where the Jogress result was just based on whichever Digimon was selected first (i.e. if you Jogress Ankylomon with Angemon you get Shakkoumon, but when you Jogress Angemon with Ankylomon you get HolyAngemon instead) so I tend to think of Jogress as just a shortcut to reach the next Evolution stage.

Personally, all I'd want from a 02(2021) is for Armadimon to get a personal Ultimate instead of sharing Vikemon, but the more likely story thread I see is something to do with the remaining 4 Holy Digimon. We know Patamon and Tailmon became Takeru and Hikari's partners respectively and we know Lopmon was reborn as well, but we haven't seen anything about ClavisAngemon, SlashAngemon, Valdurmon, or Rasielmon in the current age, and two of those still don't have "proper" lines.
Retconning all of the 02 partners to Angelic Lines would be strange.

I could see SlashAngemon for Veemon, and potentially Valdurmon for Hawkmon, but ClavisAngemon for Armadillomon, and Rasielmon, for Wormmon? None of those remaining lines work for Wormmon, which is why I figured if they're going to keep Ken, might as well pair him with Lopmon to keep the Kindness vs. Fallen momentum going. That's assuming Ken ends up with a crest this time around.

Personally, I like the idea of them becoming the four sovereigns, but that still puts Wormmon in a strange position.

Baihumon for Gatomon
Zhuquaimon for Hawkmon
Ebonwomon for Aramadillomon
Azulongmon for Veemon

I don't recall the name of the golden dragon, but I don't think that fits Wormmon. Possibly Patamon,though.
Oh, it seems I wasn't clear. What I'm saying is that I think a storyline involving the remaining Holy Digimon is more likely than an 02 reboot. Current cast, no 02 characters.
Maybe all 7 Holy Digimon are needed to fully restore balance to the Digital World, like how in 02 it was said the Adventure kids had to release the Holy Beasts. So the Chosen Children have to find their reincarnations. And maybe the other 4 characters can get alternate Ultimates, to keep the audience interest up.

As I already said, Even if they did reboot 02, I don't think they'd go changing the evolutions, save Armadimon's ultimate. And TBH, if they did that, I'd think it would be SlashAngemon, not Clavis, as out of the two there's currently more president for that one. But I don't want to drag this thread off topic, so that's all I'll say about the Armadi/Slash/Clavis situation.
 
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I see a lot of talk about replacing partners, but at that point, just make a new show entirely.
I also don't see them changing lines. At all. Maybe adding to them, or getting rid of Armor Evolution entirely and making the former Armor Digimon alternate evos, now that A2020 has (finally) done it in an anime outside of Dark Evolution. I also don't see them changing the Perfect evolutions even without Jogress. Whenever I hear "non-Jogress lines" my mind just goes back to Digimon Story (Digimon World DS) where the Jogress result was just based on whichever Digimon was selected first (i.e. if you Jogress Ankylomon with Angemon you get Shakkoumon, but when you Jogress Angemon with Ankylomon you get HolyAngemon instead) so I tend to think of Jogress as just a shortcut to reach the next Evolution stage.

Personally, all I'd want from a 02(2021) is for Armadimon to get a personal Ultimate instead of sharing Vikemon, but the more likely story thread I see is something to do with the remaining 4 Holy Digimon. We know Patamon and Tailmon became Takeru and Hikari's partners respectively and we know Lopmon was reborn as well, but we haven't seen anything about ClavisAngemon, SlashAngemon, Valdurmon, or Rasielmon in the current age, and two of those still don't have "proper" lines.
Retconning all of the 02 partners to Angelic Lines would be strange.

I could see SlashAngemon for Veemon, and potentially Valdurmon for Hawkmon, but ClavisAngemon for Armadillomon, and Rasielmon, for Wormmon? None of those remaining lines work for Wormmon, which is why I figured if they're going to keep Ken, might as well pair him with Lopmon to keep the Kindness vs. Fallen momentum going. That's assuming Ken ends up with a crest this time around.

Personally, I like the idea of them becoming the four sovereigns, but that still puts Wormmon in a strange position.

Baihumon for Gatomon
Zhuquaimon for Hawkmon
Ebonwomon for Aramadillomon
Azulongmon for Veemon

I don't recall the name of the golden dragon, but I don't think that fits Wormmon. Possibly Patamon,though.
Oh, it seems I wasn't clear. What I'm saying is that I think a storyline involving the remaining Holy Digimon is more likely than an 02 reboot. Current cast, no 02 characters.
Maybe all 7 Holy Digimon are needed to fully restore balance to the Digital World, like how in 02 it was said the Adventure kids had to release the Holy Beasts. So the Chosen Children have to find their reincarnations. And maybe the other 4 characters can get alternate Ultimates, to keep the audience interest up.

As I already said, Even if they did reboot 02, I don't think they'd go changing the evolutions, save Armadimon's ultimate. And TBH, if they did that, I'd think it would be SlashAngemon, not Clavis, as out of the two there's currently more president for that one. But I don't want to drag this thread off topic, so that's all I'll say about the Armadi/Slash/Clavis situation.
Fair enough.

Honestly, I'd be okay with them rebooting 02, but making it unrelated to the original. I'm not against Davis and Co. replacing Maki's group. I actually think that works better.
 

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Lots of hopes...characters not be such wuss and limit their own digimon potential
Ulforceveedramon
Go hardcore with like adventure 2020 is doing
Demon to be the actual final boss
If armor evolutions, let them use more than 2 or 3 digimentals please, let them all share for those eveelutions
Final mega for other 3

There is so much 5hey can do with 02
 

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Lots of hopes...characters not be such wuss and limit their own digimon potential
Ulforceveedramon
Go hardcore with like adventure 2020 is doing
Demon to be the actual final boss
If armor evolutions, let them use more than 2 or 3 digimentals please, let them all share for those eveelutions
Final mega for other 3

There is so much 5hey can do with 02
I'd be okay with them exclusively being limited to Armor forms. Namely that it is the only forms they're able to naturally achieve, because they're an Ancient species of Digimon. Not sure how feasible that is given all the wild Armor forms they've shown, but making it be the only achievable forms for an older group of Digidestined makes a lot of sense.
 

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I would rather they not reboot it.
I stomached Adventure Colon until Jyagamon, Potato Hell, and then I gave up. The blandest bland to ever bland.
Take Ogremon and Leomon's rivalry in the original for instance. It gave them some actual depth as characters (such as when Saberleomon died). Meanwhile when Ogremon died in Colon, I felt nothing.

If they're gonna make a new anime, I'd rather it be actually new. That way, hopefully, they'll have to actually write characters, instead of relying on nostalgia to keep viewers invested.
 
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