Digimon whose Level you would Change

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As the title says, what Digimon do you wish were a different level from what they are in canon?

For starters, I wish we could have a whole line of Mamemons instead of them all being Ultimate or Mega. Thunderballmon - Mamemon seems like a massive downgrade so I think it would be better as Mamemon - Thunderballmon/BigMamemon - MetalMamemon - Prince/Tonosama/Bancho Mamemon.
 

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I always did like the idea of Death Evolution, so MadLeomon being Champion always felt off to me. As a result I would boost him up to Ultimate.
 

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As for Mamemon, Mamemon being a baby sized Perfect was kind of the whole point and Digimon went on to make child sized perfects in all 5 original virtual pets so I wouldn't change Mamemon because it feels very intentional and has history behind it. Metal Mamemon also being a Perfect is probably because mega didn't exist back then so it is odd for it to be the same level and Big Mamemon probably should have been mega as even now I see him as borderline mega since Big Mamemon is literally an aggregation of many Mamemons combining their power. Thunderballmon losing its electricity when evolving is odd but admittedly it's hard to simplify Mamemon further and it does give Thunderballmon its own individuality which is nice for evolutionary stages in monster franchises to have and it can let you more easily use Thunderballmon for different digivolution lines that don't involve Mamemon (for example, it's the perfect in-between for Pulsemon and Shootmon). I also think the idea of Digimon tamers purposefully using lower evolution forms because they have benefits for specific situations higher forms don't (electrical powers and more evasion for Thunderballmon) is criminally untapped.

sorry I only discussed your example, I know I have some digimon I wish were different levels and I wanted to write about that too but I just can't think of them right now. Hopefully I can come back to this thread with examples
 

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Mad Leomon Armed: 4 to 5
Potamon: 4 to 3
Splashmon Water Tiger: 5 to 6
Tuwarmon: 4 to 5
Dagomon: 5 to 6
Deckerdramon: 4 to 6
DeckerGreymon: 5 to 6
Pukamon (Beta Design): 2 to 3
Eyesmon Scatter: 4 to 3
Kinkakumon and Ginkakumon: 4 to 5
Ginkakumon Promote: 4 to 6
Shooting Starmon: 4 to 6

Those are the big ones.
 

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Damemon/Tsuwarmon being the same level pisses me off

The Dark Generals should really be Mega

Deckerdramon being Champion is silly

Chikurimon should be In-Training

funny how these are all XW Digimon

and then Eyesmon SM as Rookie

Ginkakumon Promote being a level up works as well, in fact any mode change the same level should be a level higher to make them less redundant

MetalMamemon and BigMamemon - Mega
 

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Mad Leomon Armed: 4 to 5
Potamon: 4 to 3
Splashmon Water Tiger: 5 to 6
Tuwarmon: 4 to 5
Dagomon: 5 to 6
Deckerdramon: 4 to 6
DeckerGreymon: 5 to 6
Pukamon (Beta Design): 2 to 3
Eyesmon Scatter: 4 to 3
Kinkakumon and Ginkakumon: 4 to 5
Ginkakumon Promote: 4 to 6
Shooting Starmon: 4 to 6

Those are the big ones.
Splashmon's true form isn't even its own species though so Splashmon's Level would be for the true form by default and Splashmon's Level was made Level V for balance reasons so that Level VI wouldn't be bloated and allows Splashmon to work as an alternative to both RareRaremon and ExTyrannomon as a Digivolution for Raremon.

Likewise Tuwarmon was already treated as Adult Level well before the XWU and it's meant to be a slide of the Level IV Damemon. ShootingStarmon is a Jogress of Level III Starmon with Level II Pickmon so making it Level VI makes no sense and most variant Xrosses are not gonna to have a higher Level than the base species (Shoutmon X4B, X4K and X5B are the exception but their Levels seem to be based on number of components).
Chikurimon should be In-Training

Ginkakumon Promote being a level up works as well, in fact any mode change the same level should be a level higher to make them less redundant

MetalMamemon and BigMamemon - Mega
Chikurimon was so it could Digivolve directly to Troopmon, Level VI did not exist when Metal and Big were made and most Mode Changes are functionally Slide Evolution where the the Digimon shift back and forth plus many are for Level VI Digimon anyway.
 
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Lucemon (ultimate instead of rookie)
Lucemon Falldown Mode (Mega instead of ultimate)
Lucemon Satan Mode (definitely above mega)
Otherwise a rookie Lucemon toying with 10 ancient Mega level warriors in Frontier is just too insane
 

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I’d make Beautymon a God Grade, as we have ZERO feminine god-grade Appmon species, and just to get a complete line from Aidmon up to her.
 

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Lucemon (ultimate instead of rookie)
Lucemon Falldown Mode (Mega instead of ultimate)
Lucemon Satan Mode (definitely above mega)
Otherwise a rookie Lucemon toying with 10 ancient Mega level warriors in Frontier is just too insane
The thing is that Level is not strictly a measurement of power, it is primarily a measurement of age up until Levels V and VI.

This is my big issue with this topic as a whole because it is based on how strong you think a Digimon should be and not how it relates to other Digimon as a species. Case in point...
I always did like the idea of Death Evolution, so MadLeomon being Champion always felt off to me. As a result I would boost him up to Ultimate.
The problem is that in Xros Wars itself, MadLeomon is shown shifting into regular Leomon as equivalent much like the aforementioned Damemon/Tuwarmon hence why @Muur being angry about them being the same Level is, to be perfectly blunt, utterly stupid in my honestly opinion.

Odd one, but Tyutyumon to perfect.
I could see ChuuChuumon as Level IV but no higher than that but that's being generous since there isn't much indication that it's any more mature than regular Chuumon when we look at how it behaved in Xros Wars and given how Bastemon literally ate the rat.

I’d make Beautymon a God Grade, as we have ZERO feminine god-grade Appmon species, and just to get a complete line from Aidmon up to her.
Except Beautymon does not fit within the Greek theme of the God Grades apart from Rebootmon, even Deusmon is derived from the Latin word Deus meaning "God" and the others are all explicitly named after Greek deities meaning a God Grade Aidmon/Beautymon would be named either Aphroditemon or Hygieiamon if you wanted to stay in the medical theme of Aidmon.

And on that note Aidmon doesn't even App Fuse into Beautymon in the first place, she App Fuses into Biomon who is already partnered with Revivemon to become Hadesmon.
 

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Deckerdramon and Shoutmon X4 to Perfect.
 

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Any of the Death Generals who ended up being Perfect, particularly Zamielmon, he was a perfect Ultimate for Koemon.
 

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Shoutmon X4 to Perfect.
That's too high, Shoutmon X4 was treated as Adult-class in Hyper Coliseum and it only consists of four components whereas the three confirmed Level V Digimon in the main Shoutmon DigiXros series all consist of exactly five components: Shoutmon, Ballistamon, Dorulumon, Starmons and either Beelzemon, Knightmon or Sparrowmon.

As far as the Shoutmon DigiXros series is concerned, two to four components equals Level IV, five components equals Level V and six or more components equals Level VI.
 

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Likewise Tuwarmon was already treated as Adult Level well before the XWU and it's meant to be a slide of the Level IV Damemon. ShootingStarmon is a Jogress of Level III Starmon with Level II Pickmon so making it Level VI makes no sense and most variant Xrosses are not gonna to have a higher Level than the base species (Shoutmon X4B, X4K and X5B are the exception but their Levels seem to be based on number of components).
Darcmon and Hippogriffomon were both slide evolutions of Murmurxmon. It’s pretty well established that a higher level Digimon can disguise as a lower level - see also Astamon pretending to need to evolve from Psychemon.

Shooting Starmon frankly didn’t need to exist. If it wasn’t going to fulfill a new niche it should’ve just become regular Starmon.
 

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Shooting Starmon frankly didn’t need to exist. If it wasn’t going to fulfill a new niche it should’ve just become regular Starmon.
I mean, Digimon's don't need a reason to exist other than "because it's fun". Starmon and the Pickmons were prominent characters throughout every story in the Xros Wars universe so having those characters who fight as a family get their own unique Xros where they come together in a spectacular way is just.... more fun.

I'm glad people are mentioning Deckerdramon. When I think of adult Digimon I think of digimon that are fully matured, like Greymon feels like a fully grown Agumon, Birdramon feels like a fully matured Biyomon, Devimon feels like a fully realized DemiDevimon, etc., but Deckerdramon doesn't just feel like a Digimon done growing, it feels like a Digimon that was modified and augmented, min/maxed specifically for combat, which of course fits the idea that perfects are Digimon who pushed their limits past their biological restrictions so it's just so weird seeing him as an adult
 

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other than its intro in Xros Wars (it’s described as a god, it should be Mega), Perfect makes sense for Deckerdramon for me (why is it Champion)

I get that it’s so it can evolve directly to Troopmon, but Chikurimon looks so, so much more like a Baby II than a Rookie
 

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Level VI did not exist when Metal and Big were made and most Mode Changes are functionally Slide Evolution where the the Digimon shift back and forth plus many are for Level VI Digimon anyway.

Didn't stop them retconning Herculeskabuterimon, hououmon, rosemon, magnadramon, jijimon, saberleomon, and machinedramon from ultimate to mega when mega came.
 
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Shoutmon X4 to Perfect.
That's too high, Shoutmon X4 was treated as Adult-class in Hyper Coliseum and it only consists of four components whereas the three confirmed Level V Digimon in the main Shoutmon DigiXros series all consist of exactly five components: Shoutmon, Ballistamon, Dorulumon, Starmons and either Beelzemon, Knightmon or Sparrowmon.

As far as the Shoutmon DigiXros series is concerned, two to four components equals Level IV, five components equals Level V and six or more components equals Level VI.
This is a very good explanation about Shoutmon's Xros forms. I like this take.

But let me tell why I have that idea above. It's actually because I think in every level Shoutmon should have two Xros forms without extra. By extra I mean Spadamon, Knightmon, or Beelzebumon. It's just beautifully neat.
X2 and X3 are Adults.
X4 and X5 are Perfects.
X6 and X7 are Ultimates.
Also the Profile of X4.

I like the take. Thank you.
 

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Darcmon and Hippogriffomon were both slide evolutions of Murmurxmon. It’s pretty well established that a higher level Digimon can disguise as a lower level - see also Astamon pretending to need to evolve from Psychemon.
The thing is that Murmukusmon is also classified as a Demon Lord Digimon and described commanding thirty legions of demons making him only slightly lesser to the Seven Great Demon Lords themselves.

Tuwarmon on the other hand was never treated as being especially strong even by Level IV standards, nevermind comparing him to OmegaShoutmon or Cho-Hakkaimon.

Plus ninjas by the very nature of their job are not really fighters contrary to what popular media would have you believe and in fact actively avoid combat situations whenever possible specifically because combat, especially prolonged, is a death sentence hence why ninja themed Digimon have all been Level IV.
other than its intro in Xros Wars (it’s described as a god, it should be Mega), Perfect makes sense for Deckerdramon for me (why is it Champion)

I get that it’s so it can evolve directly to Troopmon, but Chikurimon looks so, so much more like a Baby II than a Rookie
The thing is that the narrative element @Bancho describes regarding Level V had largely been subsequently dropped long before Deckerdramon was even conceived.

Regarding Chikurimon the same could be said for both Salamon, whom I actually thought was Level II before learning about YukumiBotamon being Gatomon's Level I stage because of how baby-like it is, and Otamamon who was referred to as a Baby Digimon in Data Squad and is based tadpoles which are the larval stage in the life cycle of many amphibians.
Didn't stop them retconning Herculeskabuterimon, hououmon, rosemon, magnadramon, jijimon, and machinedramon from ultimate to mega when mega came.
They also retconned both Mechanorimon and Minotarumon into Level IV and Syakomon into Level III.
But let me tell why I have that idea above. It's actually because I think in every level Shoutmon should have two Xros forms without extra. By extra I mean Spadamon, Knightmon, or Beelzebumon. It's just beautifully neat.
X2 and X3 are Adults.
X4 and X5 are Perfects.
X6 and X7 are Ultimates.
Also the Profile of X4.

I like the take. Thank you.
I do get the logic since it would also put X4 on equal footing with both MetalGreymon and DarkKnightmon as the three main DigiXrosses of the series and the main DigiXrosses of their respective factions so I'm a little surprised they didn't do this.

The only explanation I can think of is that the Star Sword by itself is not enough to push X3's Level higher since it didn't boost regular Shoutmon's Level either and the Level V Xrosses all have something else in addition to the Star Sword.

This could also partially explain why Armed MadLeomon and DeckerGreymon didn't get boosted a Level in addition to the ZekeGreymon possibly being conceived as a Digivolution of the latter making having them be the same Level a bad idea.
 
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Alphamon: Ouryuken should be Super Ultimate level instead of Mega. It is consist of the most powerful and leader Digimon of the Royal Knights and another very powerful Digimon.
 
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