Digimon Ghost Game: Episode 15- The Fortuneteller's Manor

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This is the episode discussion thread for Episode 15, The Fortuneteller's Manor

A preview of the episode from the end of episode 14

Episode 15 airs Sunday, January 23rd, 9am in Japan.

The simulcast for Crunchyroll is shortly after at:
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Starting off with some nice lighting effects, even if basic, with the fortune teller.

Framing it as a bad generic fortune teller with effects works, the screaming, eh, not really. And she's a statue now.

Ah, the old genie trick. You get what you asked for, just in a twisted way.

Ruli playing with the new Dim Card which does... she's distracted by a phone call.

Angoramon sitting there bored as a hologram ghost while Ruli has cake with her friends has a good look to it. Although no one has eaten any of the cake...

Jellymon traveling around doing her work, we haven't seen much of this, but it's still amusing. And she finds the statue and freaks out. Anytime we see her facade drop and she freaks out like Kiyoshiro it really does help point out why they are partners.

Oh look, Fangmons. Although I guess he's sort of making up their wishes and it isn't their actual ones? Or he's just forgetting... another statue.

I like those working for Phelesmon sounding bored and generic at doing their tasks.

Jellymon jumping between scared and excited they are going for a mission/project feels very her.

"Doesn't it look like a circle?" for where the appearances of the fortune teller have been... kind of I guess? It didn't feel very circular in the map image.

The episode feels a bit meandering, with characters doing a lot of walking around... and then Angoramon waves to Ruli as she's doing that.

And they found the fortune teller booth.

Angoramon's bunny sense is tingling and he warns Ruli, so she goes a Scooby-Dooing through the back.

PicoDevimon! Although just a vision from the Boogiemon I guess. Oh that's good, they're realizing using fear quite literally. A nice little touch.

Uh oh, Hiro is going to call Ruli. Phone is gonna ring at a bad time... and there we go. And Phelesmon of course hears it.

"Circle". I know it's nitpicking, but the path really doesn't line up for any circle as far as I can see.

Angoramon breaking shit and driving through the place to mess things up for Phelesmon, thumbs up.

Ruli realizes if she creates the psuedo space her friends will see what's going on, but doing it anyways. And nope, they're not there.

New ice space from the new Dim. And Hiro and Kiyoshiro are there also.

Hooray, Angoramon evolves!

....SymbaAngoramon? You'd think with how much they've been able to use Symbare up until now they would have been able to not introduce a new spelling.


Gammamon pulling everyone in on a sled to help! Betel is there to help, and here's Tesla.

Feels like the first all 3 team-up might have been better served until next week, since Symbare just showed up for the first time.

Interesting that Phelesmon is aware of Digimon who team up with kids... and is quite sure he can still win... although he's leaving anyways... and turns everyone back from statutes at the smallest mention of it from Ruli. He comments it is to apologize for not reading her fortune.

And everyone stands there and watches as him and all his guys leave.

Her friends didn't notice the world swap and assume she just went somewhere. But no negative, they assume she had gotten them to chase her, which is why the others vanished also.

Scene change to her friends going home on a bus, they're aware 'something' is going on with Ruli, but are leaving her to tell them when she is ready.



I dunno, it's weird. The episode is kind of flat overall, but it had some good stuff. The show just needs a way out of the rut of constantly ending with someone realizing their wrong, or the bad guy just deciding to up and walk away.





Ryotaro Okiayu played Phelesmon. Well known to Digimon fans, he was RhodoKnightmon in Frontier and X-Evo, Grademon in Xros Wars, and has been Devimon in Adventure since the PSP game, including in Adventure: & New Century.

The various other Digimon and people are played by various ensemble members who are credited.
 
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Pacing all wack yet again, seems like there isn't any arcs or point to the events... and really everything seems just so forced like couldn't they work angoramons evo in a more crucial way instead of just cause!? bah i dunno man the whole show seems to be draggin around going nowere even if they eventually start showing higher stakes, will the characters even care, so far they seem to have no drive to them. Overall this series is really lacking in soul.

EDIT: also forgot to mention how the animation was a complete disapointment i mean SymbaAngoramon is clearlly a nimble Kongfu design yet they decided to have him just stand there and throw a beam attack like some rpg....
 

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Starting off with some nice lighting effects, even if basic, with the fortune teller.

Framing it as a bad generic fortune teller with effects works, the screaming, eh, not really. And she's a statue now.

Ah, the old genie trick. You get what you asked for, just in a twisted way.

Ruli playing with the new Dim Card which does... she's distracted by a phone call.

Angoramon sitting there bored as a hologram ghost while Ruli has cake with her friends has a good look to it. Although no one has eaten any of the cake...

Jellymon traveling around doing her work, we haven't seen much of this, but it's still amusing. And she finds the statue and freaks out. Anytime we see her facade drop and she freaks out like Kiyoshiro it really does help point out why they are partners.

Oh look, Fangmons. Although I guess he's sort of making up their wishes and it isn't their actual ones? Or he's just forgetting... another statue.

I like those working for Phelesmon sounding bored and generic at doing their tasks.

Jellymon jumping between scared and excited they are going for a mission/project feels very her.

"Doesn't it look like a circle?" for where the appearances of the fortune teller have been... kind of I guess? It didn't feel very circular in the map image.

The episode feels a bit meandering, with characters doing a lot of walking around... and then Angoramon waves to Ruli as she's doing that.

And they found the fortune teller booth.

Angoramon's bunny sense is tingling and he warns Ruli, so she goes a Scooby-Dooing through the back.

PicoDevimon! Although just a vision from the Boogiemon I guess. Oh that's good, they're realizing using fear quite literally. A nice little touch.

Uh oh, Hiro is going to call Ruli. Phone is gonna ring at a bad time... and there we go. And Phelesmon of course hears it.

"Circle". I know it's nitpicking, but the path really doesn't line up for any circle as far as I can see.

Angoramon breaking shit and driving through the place to mess things up for Phelesmon, thumbs up.

Ruli realizes if she creates the psuedo space her friends will see what's going on, but doing it anyways. And nope, they're not there.

New ice space from the new Dim. And Hiro and Kiyoshiro are there also.

Hooray, Angoramon evolves!

....SymbaAngoramon? You'd think with how much they've been able to use Symbare up until now they would have been able to not introduce a new spelling.


Gammamon pulling everyone in on a sled to help! Betel is there to help, and here's Tesla.

Feels like the first all 3 team-up might have been better served until next week, since Symbare just showed up for the first time.

Interesting that Phelesmon is aware of Digimon who team up with kids... and is quite sure he can still win... although he's leaving anyways... and turns everyone back from statutes at the smallest mention of it from Ruli. He comments it is to apologize for not reading her fortune.

And everyone stands there and watches as him and all his guys leave.

Her friends didn't notice the world swap and assume she just went somewhere. But no negative, they assume she had gotten them to chase her, which is why the others vanished also.

Scene change to her friends going home on a bus, they're aware 'something' is going on with Ruli, but are leaving her to tell them when she is ready.



I dunno, it's weird. The episode is kind of flat overall, but it had some good stuff. The show just needs a way out of the rut of constantly ending with someone realizing their wrong, or the bad guy just deciding to up and walk away.





Ryotaro Okiayu played Phelesmon. Well known to Digimon fans, he was RhodoKnightmon in Frontier and X-Evo, Grademon in Xros Wars, and has been Devimon in Adventure since the PSP game, including in Adventure: & New Century.

The various other Digimon and people are played by various ensemble members who are credited.
It did not look to me as she was using the new dim card when summoning the snow digimon world. It's looks logical, but I went to that frame again and there is nothing connected to the V-Bracelet.
 
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Pacing all wack yet again, seems like there isn't any arcs or point to the events... and really everything seems just so forced like couldn't they work angoramons evo in a more crucial way instead of just cause!? bah i dunno man the whole show seems to be draggin around going nowere even if they eventually start showing higher stakes, will the characters even care, so far they seem to have no drive to them. Overall this series is really lacking in soul.

EDIT: also forgot to mention how the animation was a complete disapointment i mean SymbaAngoramon is clearlly a nimble Kongfu design yet they decided to have him just stand there and throw a beam attack like some rpg....
Unfortunately this is nothing new. Recent Digimon series (starting from Xros Wars, Appmon (first half), Tri and Adventure 2020) has suffered the same problem. Each episode feels so formualic and predictable plus almost no pacing regarding main story plot and superficial character development. If this problem continues the only hope for future of Digimon anime lies with one-off movies like LEK...
 

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We finally got Symbare Angoramon, I loved this episode, I don't mind the pacing, Phelesmon anime return, the Boogiemon are new additions to the anime, and I liked seeing Symbare's attacks action even if it was only a few minutes and the three champions combine there attacks was awesome.

And looking forward to the Future if we ever get more tamers besides the main trio.
 

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Interesting that Phelesmon is aware of Digimon who team up with kids... and is quite sure he can still win... although he's leaving anyways... and turns everyone back from statutes at the smallest mention of it from Ruli. He comments it is to apologize for not reading her fortune.

And everyone stands there and watches as him and all his guys leave.
To be fair, it's a little more justified in this situation since as Phelesmon rightly points out, three Level IVs are not gonna much better against him than the classic Adventure kid's Level IVs did against either Etemon or Myotismon.

He's basically granting them mercy because they're not worth his time which may, hopefully, come back to bite him when they start unlocking Level V if he were to return.
 

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Wow that was... very underwhelming. Like, I kept my expectations low but holy shit, the more I think on it the more I might like this less than TeslaJellymon's debut because at least that episode felt like it was building up to the moment.

I will say though I did like the set up and premise of the episode and for the most part I did enjoy it up until Angoromon burst through the tent with a forklift. Fun as that image is would he really need that for a tent? Iunno. Ruli has a genuine concern about her friends finding out about Angoromon if they get sucked in the digital space, but that gets settled in like a few seconds Ruli and Angoromon reunite and that's enough to start the evolution. Ok, sure whatever. Strange as it was that Hiro never contacted Ruli beforehand when he first heard about the statues, I did like that the two groups were on separate missions that would eventually dovetail into each other it's just that the actual process of them figuring this out isn't super interesting. What is interesting is Phelesmon succeeding at getting him and his buddies to materialize and the potential of him being a first proper antagonist for them to go against. But that's only maybe and judging by the episode preview we probably won't be following up on that immediately. Also I suppose it is a sweet sentiment how hard Ruli was trying to help her friend out. I think the show is trying to set up them meeting Angoromon proper but aside from that set up being really shakey I don't get why I should care about Ruli's friends knowing such a thing when they're barely characters in any capacity (I mean I guess I like them better than Hiro's friend.)

For all the pushing back they did for this evolution it really stinks that there's just no narrative energy to it at all. We don't even get a cool fight just Symbare (wait how the hell did they pronounce it?) and Phelesmon in a beam struggle until the others show up. For as much as I liked episode 11 for not having him evolve there and appreciated that Angoromon didn't evolve in 13 as it would have made things too muddled, I really wish they had evolved him earlier in some better fashion or something because waiting so long for this is just so deflating. I get we had to wait cuz of the dim cards irl but man. It's moments like these that kill my confidence of the show being able to handle any future plot points well, because if you can't even make a basic powerup for our cast member feel special, how the heck am I supposed to believe you can do anything else right? This just might be the last straw for me...
 
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His name is already SymbaAngoramon
 

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Fav part of the episode was the friends understanding!!!

Weedmon and now this week's digimon....geesh i wonder what they are planning
 

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It did not look to me as she was using the new dim card when summoning the snow digimon world. It's looks logical, but I went to that frame again and there is nothing connected to the V-Bracelet.

She put it in her Digivice earlier in the episode. Since the initial plug we've never seen them use them 'again' to enter the pseudo world that I recall, the initial plug activates the Digivice having access.
 

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Design-wise, SymbareAngoramon is the coolest evolution so far. It's a shame there was no build-up leading up to his evo. As someone already mentioned, there was that one moment where Ruri was worried about her friends finding out the truth about Angoramon, but that came out of nowhere at the last second.

Oh well, I hope we get some cool fight sequences with SymbareAngoramon in the future.
 

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I wish they would finally start developing some form of overarching story. All these encounters feel way too scattered. We have three Digimon promising revenge right now and I have my doubts any of them will turn into more than a returning episodic threat. A shame, cause I really think they could come up with something to bring the pieces together.

Anyway, Husbandomon is in the show now and together with Waifumon (or GF-mon) and red Sonic the hedgehog they DBZ movie 10 Triple Kamehameha'd against Phelesmon.

I guess it's an ok episode, my favourite part were the Boogeymon disguises. I do hope Phelesmon becomes a bigger villain later on.
 

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I feel like a lot of these episodes would be okay as initial drafts, but someone forget to actually tidy them up and this week's is no exception. When it comes to horror, what people fear the most is the unknown and so simply showing us right off the bat what Phelesmon does to his victims robs us off most of the suspense. Similarly, having two running plotlines that meet at the the climax is a nice idea in theory but usually are best when we aren't sure of how they connect, so having Hiro and company wander around until the plot finds them felt like meandering. As I suspected, for all its faults the Reppamon episode would have been better served as the SymbareAngoramon debut since there was an emotional crescendo with Ruli and Angoramon overcoming their differences (however artificial), whereas here it fell completely flat. Being extremely charitable I would say what the writers wanted to convey was the pair's desire to save Ruli's friends, but had I been in charge what I would have done was have Angoramon actually aid the other girls directly initially like, I dunno say Mika trips and falls into oncoming traffic, have Angoramon push her out of the way so the girls become vaguely aware of an unseen friend. Then have the girls be turned into stone so that gives *both* Angoramon and Ruli the righteous fury to stop Phelesmon, who then once Hiro and the others turn up offers turning everyone back to normal in exchange for retreating so that causes a moral dilemma since the gang don't know if simply defeating Phelesmon will save the others. Thus you could justify the villain escaping and not just casually walking off like he did in the actual episode. Just a thought.

Oh well, next week is attack of the trees. Hopefully that one is better.
 

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I think this episode was good. The fortune teller being a Phelesmon who turned people into stone was a good premise. The petrification scenes were well done. Angoramon's entry to to protect Ruki and her friends was well done. Ruki's sadness that her friends don't distinguish between Angoramon and the evil Digimon was a nice touch. I loved to finally see SymbareAngoramon. The fight was well done. Phelesmon leaving at the end was an interesting ending. I am sure he will return.
 

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I actually think this episode was fairly decent, not the best but not the worst. For example, Symbare finally shows up! The threat felt real enough, as Phelesmon is truly an evil being and wasn't redeemed in anyway, but that's getting tired. It makes the heroes seem kinda useless at this point as Dracumon, Yatagaramon, Zassoumon, and now Phelesmon have all been actively and purposefully causing chaos, and in the end get off scott-free.

I think the development of Ruri is kinda all over the place. In a previous focus episode she gets upset with Angoramon for keeping secrets from her, and her she does the same to her friends. If the hypocrisy is intentional, its hard to tell.

Loved the cameos of PicoDevimon and Fangmon. Ever since Fangmon was announced for Survive, he's been getting publicity. Good for him.

I also love that everyone has a personal nickname for Kiyoshiro: Senpai, Higacchi, Darling, Kiyo, I think Angoramon is the only to call him by his actual name lol
 

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It did not look to me as she was using the new dim card when summoning the snow digimon world. It's looks logical, but I went to that frame again and there is nothing connected to the V-Bracelet.

She put it in her Digivice earlier in the episode. Since the initial plug we've never seen them use them 'again' to enter the pseudo world that I recall, the initial plug activates the Digivice having access.
Hadn't really thought about it until now but this also mirrors the function of the VB toy where each dim has its own unique environment/background. So far the environments have been different depending on who loads it. Gammamon covers everything in grass and moss and Angoramon loads a forest - Both of these are essentially accurate to their real world counterparts. Jellymon's IRL dim loads a sandy beach but in the show everything turns Tron-esque... actually this environment makes me think much more of Impulse City which now has me wondering if maybe Pulsemon was in the mix somewhere during production.

The blueish grey dim that Hiro loads in the previous episode turns up sand. The color and environment match Titan of Dust. The white dim Ruli loads in this episode gives us a snowy environment which has gotta be Blizzard Fang. These two dims also have twins with opposite environments respectively - Infinite Tide and Volcanic Beat. I suppose at some point we could expect a red one to load either a dense jungle or an industrial mechanical wasteland... Or some weird mishmash where something goes wrong and you have two environmental extremes clashing. And then there's Dynasty of the Evil, an outlier solitary dim which already fits the theme of the show so the chances of it coming into play seem high.

The remaining navy dim doesn't match any existing ones... except the Vs. Memory card that comes with the Digivice V. Wonder what will happen when they slot that one? :unsure:

EDIT: One more thing. It's probably reasonable to assume none of the EX, GP, or Warriors dims will show up since they are directly based on previous seasons. This leaves Vol .05, Mad Black Roar and True Shadow Howl. We've already seen Agumon Black lingering around. It might just be that he's already got a human partner? Bring in Gabumon Black in the future and suddenly there's an excuse to give Omegamon Zwart (and Zwart D) their anime debut. Just sayin'.
 
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I mean with all these obviously evil Digimon escaping left and right they obviously are setting up for something more in the future, I just hope it will actually pay off when the time comes. So far they're a bit too trapped in their ghostly premise. It's pay off in some but more often than not it just ends up like this.
Interested in how Phelesmon wasn't surprised about human partner. Has Hiro and the other got famous now around town or does he know more about the bracelet?

Symbare first show is... disappointing, honestly the fight against Reppamon would've been a much better case of showing their bond than this.
I don't even get what her dilemma here is. No one so far was ever dragged into the other world but the digimon and them, the weirdest case they would've seen would be her suddenly disappearing in front of them, which wasn't her concern here.
Everything just came off too forced to make the evolution work.

I'm also curious if Jellymon money making scheme actually amounts to anything? Quite a few of her appearance seems to be about making money
 
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Wow imagine this episode were animated with different art style but towards Horror, it'd be really scary episode without a doubt!

I liked this way all Boogiemon using illusions to make humans go shriek in fear and bringing certain digimon ones like Fangmon and Picodevimon in the place of what they feared of (Rabid dogs/wolves and bats).

I wonder why two statues got abandoned instead of being added into his collection? Maybe it's his strict preferences?

I wonder how does that work, I mean Jellymon touched the abandoned statue and instantly confirmed it's humans instead of statue rocks.

SymbareAngoramon finally arrived! But this animation was something off... Like Frontier's Loweemon evolution animation!

Oh? Phelesmon is really scary unlike Xros... I'm glad Fangmon and Phelesmon are getting more appearances! Surprised Phelesmon is just satisfied with giving his buddies solid bodies rather than trying to defeat and just left like that. Well at least he gave back poor humans to us eh? So Dracumon, Weedmon, BlackAgumon and Phelesmon will be soon to be major villains? Or part of GulusGammamon's rebellion? ha!
 

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I think this episode was good. The fortune teller being a Phelesmon who turned people into stone was a good premise. The petrification scenes were well done. Angoramon's entry to to protect Ruki and her friends was well done. Ruki's sadness that her friends don't distinguish between Angoramon and the evil Digimon was a nice touch. I loved to finally see SymbareAngoramon. The fight was well done. Phelesmon leaving at the end was an interesting ending. I am sure he will return.
I forgot. I liked having BetelGammamon, TeslaJellymon and SymbareAngoramon fighting together.
 
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