Digimon Fusion Season 2 Composer, Length Confusion, and Discussion

[Grovyle48]

Do we know when Season 2 is coming on the air this year?

 

[Vande]

Do we know when Season 2 is coming on the air this year?

Nope not yet. When it is known, it will be posted.

 

[poweranimals]

I'm starting to get a little impatient. They haven't even aired an episode in like 8 months and we still don't even have an announcement.

 

[Hagaren Gao]

I'm a little curious, I know Power Rangers runs in similar 20~ ep blocks now, is there as much space between new episodes as we've had here? There wasn't a huge indication that there was going to be another season of Fusion aside from a clip in the last ep, so I have to wonder if some of the target audience might move on by the time Fusion comes back. We know they are working on it so I guess one can't complain too much, but it seems like an odd business move.

 

[MarcFBR]

I'm a little curious, I know Power Rangers runs in similar 20~ ep blocks now, is there as much space between new episodes as we've had here? There wasn't a huge indication that there was going to be another season of Fusion aside from a clip in the last ep, so I have to wonder if some of the target audience might move on by the time Fusion comes back. We know they are working on it so I guess one can't complain too much, but it seems like an odd business move.

Any number of reasons could explain the delay.

They could be waiting to launch with products (Bandai has been making far more than they normally do lately, and I doubt they could output much more.)

They could be waiting for a clause in a contract to trip to move networks or otherwise activate some contract detail.

They could have been waiting to see how Dino Charge was received to pair it with that once it's a bit in it's run.

Business-wise the goal is for it to do as good as it possibly can based on their internal metrics (of which we can only guess at.)

 

[Sabrblade]

Speaking of products, what happened to the Sparrowmon toy that was shown at an event awhile back? It never came out.

 

[Unknown Neo]

so I have to wonder if some of the target audience might move on by the time Fusion comes back.

I'm almost sure they could if not a number of them would. My little nephew does stuff like that.

 

[WarOmnimon]

Personally, I'm super worried about the fate of Fusion's second season and the reason for that is quite simple... Bandai America showed NOTHING at Toy Fair this past weekend in regards to Digimon. I'm pretty sure the previous several toy shows, comic conventions, and so forth had at least the stuff that has been released over the course of the first season on display... but they had nothing to show at the show that is the Super Bowl for every toy company in the US. Add this to the fact that we saw toys for Fusion extremely close to when the first season started if I am not mistaken, and that spells "something is fishy" no matter what order the letters and words are in.

If what I suspect is going to happen ends up happening, the aftermath will definitely be worse than that of the Savers dub. While it didn't actually finish its run on Jetix in the US, they at least posted the remaining episodes online and the series actually saw its conclusion in one form or another. If the dub for Fusion doesn't continue, you can say all you want about its quality - its story will end on a cliffhanger and there will be backlash from all sorts of people, fans and executives alike... which would definitely kill our chances of getting a dub for Adventure Tri twice over. Heck, even Power Rangers doesn't have it this bad right now because the schedule's pattern for when episodes have aired since Samurai has been at least semi-consistent compared to Fusion.

Short version - I'm worried about the future of Digimon in the US (Crusader nonwithstanding) and the evidence as to why is right under many people's noses right now.

 

[Sabrblade]

If what I suspect is going to happen ends up happening, the aftermath will definitely be worse than that of the Savers dub. While it didn't actually finish its run on Jetix in the US, they at least posted the remaining episodes online and the series actually saw its conclusion in one form or another.

Data Squad did so air all of its episodes on Disney XD in the U.S. Who told you its final episodes were online-only?

 

[MarcFBR]

The thing about Toy Fair is... we only see the front half.

Plenty of deals are being made that don't involve anything we see upfront.

And things being shown don't necessarily equate to them ever existing.

Bandai at the end of the day will do what Saban tells them to, and if Saban isn't ready to discuss Season 2 of Fusion, no one is going to show stuff from it.

Toys not being shown at Toy Fair doesn't mean they don't exist, just as much as being shown as Toy Fair doesn't mean they'll end up being sold.

Voltron Force had an entire toyline shown at Toy Fair a few years ago, and I'm pretty sure not a single one of them ever came out.

Bandai was showing off a super gigantic classic Megazord a year or two back and that never came out.

All Star Rumble wasn't a massive game, but it's obvious they had been working on it for awhile and revealed it just a few months before release.

And of course, much of your post has nothing to do with anything. If Saban did decide to end Fusion... the amount of backlash would be... relatively nothing, nor would it have any affect on what may or may not happen with tri in the USA.

You underestimate the entertainment industries love of money.

They think Community could reach a wider audience and be made cheaper, they toss out it's creator. After a year they realize the new retooled show isn't working, they toss out the new guys and rehire the creator.

When Power Rangers was rebought by Saban, they put the people they wanted in charge, those guys wanted Judd to be a normal staff writer, he gave the polite industry version of 'piss off', the show was crap for 4 years. The people at Saban wanted to change the shows direction, they offer Judd the EP position, so now Judd is back to rangers.

Hell, Lorne Michaels wanted one year off, and SNL was supposed to go on hiatus. NBC changed their mind and nearly the entire cast and crew walked out the door with him. After a few years they cancelled the show. Then they went 'well... lets see if Lorne would be willing to come back...' and here we are 30 years later.

(My favorite story like this is Fox execs having security escort Bryan Singer off the Fox lot after he gave them news they didn't like, with threats of you'll never work with Fox again, etc... and then they had to let him back on a few hours later because he was directing a TV pilot for them.)

Never doubt the ability for entertainment companies that have established brands to make money.

 

[CloneWarrior]

I would honestly like to know what the hell they were thinking with the Fusion toy line in terms of advertising. The page on the official website still says "Coming Soon" and has only ever featured a YouTube video that was at one point private and was eventually just removed.

The last few stand-alone mini figures were never released, with ToyWiz simply updating the "Pre-Order ships..." message to whatever the current month is.

As far as I can tell, the only advertising the toy line ever had was a few YouTube videos linked to on the Facebook page that were just the Fusion figures "putting themselves together" via stop motion, with no actual imagery of the fusions, totally missing the point of the toys.

Hell, the cards had totally vanished from store shelves in my area by April, and the second series just never surfaced, despite every card being shown on the Facebook page and the page still saying it's coming "late 2014."

Could they actually try to market the stuff this time?

 

[Hagaren Gao]

If what I suspect is going to happen ends up happening, the aftermath will definitely be worse than that of the Savers dub. While it didn't actually finish its run on Jetix in the US, they at least posted the remaining episodes online and the series actually saw its conclusion in one form or another.

What aftermath exactly? I remember watching the last episode of Data Squad on TV, Im not sure I remember them having any episodes online.

 

[digigirl02]

Is it possible that they would just release it straight to dvd and not bother to air it at all? How popular was Fusion anyway? Considering the hype surrounding tri. they may just put the last two parts on hold and concentrate on the new series instead.

 

[MarcFBR]

New discussion thread for Fusion also has the premiere date for season 2

http://withthewill.net/threads/14636-Digimon-Fusion-Season-2-Begins-March-8th?p=263397#post263397