Digimon Adventure: Episode 6- The Targeted Kingdom

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This is the episode discussion thread for Episode 6, The Targeted Kingdom

An extended version of the episode preview from the end of episode 5.

Episode 6 airs Sunday, July 12th, 9am in Japan.

The simulcast for Crunchyroll is shortly after at:
Saturday, July 11th, 7:30pm in California (Pacific)
Saturday, July 11th, 10:30pm in New York (Eastern)
Sunday, July 12th, 3:30am in the UK

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Mimi and Palmon's introduction is as fun as you'd hope it is.

Mimi being introduced having made herself a queen worked well, moreso since it was done significantly different than it was in the original show.

Her voice is quite a bit different than I expected to be honest. Good voice, but not quite used to it as 'Mimi', at least as far as how the other voices slid in quite quickly for me.

The company connection solidly being her grandfather works really well, and hopefully we do get some fun stuff with that.

I'd say the most interesting twist this episode is the reveal that there 'is' the time dilation/differential happening, but that the Digivice:s have been adjusting for it.



The Mimi material was generally the star of the show (Palmon being her butler and trying to stand at attention was rather amusing), as everyone expected it to be.

Although once again, only Agumon gets the stock evo footage. Palmon's initial evo worked really well visually, and worked pretty well, plus we got to see some neat action with Togemon.

The flashback to showing Mimi and Palmon meet was relatively minimal, but was enough to work.

I'd say the animation 'star' this episode was the close up of Ogremon as he leaped, the animation really worked, as did the small battle with him that ensued.


Mostly a character focused episode, which feels about right for introducing Mimi.


Although the show revealing information material beat after beat as it goes on is something else I rather like.


Next time we get Jou! (And it appears they are already in the midst of trying to cross to Cloud Continent?)
 

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Love how two more "New Enemey Digimon" were shown

So im guess Valdurmon spoke to all kids with the Digivices

Love how fast Togemon was lol

Drimogomon's buff up attack was pretty cool too>>>Palmons getting hit by that attack and screaming was really something *u can kinda feel the pain from the VA xD
 

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I rlly love the start of the episode! its very fun, and the planty kingdom looked rlly nice
The time dilation being real but just gradual is a very fun twist on it, was not expectin it!
Mimi n palmon are very fun! Kinda wish they played up the "queen" part a lil more, maybe havin her take the kingdom with her or havin palmon call her mimi-sama, but its fine
The Tachikawa family continues being a bigger n bigger deal
Ogremon losin a horn (and his pet coredramon, i guess?) was kinda shockin! Wonder if he'll develop a grudge against greymon/taichi going forward
Piyomon continues bein unlucky havin no canned evolution sequence and meteor wing still being animated kinda poorly, ripp
Togemons fight animation was AMAZING, holy hell was not expectin that jump in quality
Mimi and palmon huggin while cryin was just adorable
Overall, i rlly rlly enjoyed this one! I think i like character focused episodes a lil more than plot/ action focused ones, and this was a nice mix of both!
A very good introduction to my favorite character from the old show ☺


Now, somethin has been bothering me on this series as a whole, and at first i was gonna say the characters feel kinda flat, but i dont rlly think thats the case? Theyve been mostly pretty nice
I think the problem for me is how stiff theyve been with their expressions, more than the character writing/dialogue
Mimi VA did a pretty nice *gasp* when drimogemon appeared, but the animation on her face was just "vaguely surprised"
I do hope future episodes can get goofier and/or more expressive faces
Thankfully the next episode will introduce THE over reactor of the group, so hopefully i get my expressions fix there lmao
 

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Mimi and Palmon's introduction is as fun as you'd hope it is.

Mimi being introduced having made herself a queen worked well, moreso since it was done significantly different than it was in the original show.

Her voice is quite a bit different than I expected to be honest. Good voice, but not quite used to it as 'Mimi', at least as far as how the other voices slid in quite quickly for me.

The company connection solidly being her grandfather works really well, and hopefully we do get some fun stuff with that.

I'd say the most interesting twist this episode is the reveal that there 'is' the time dilation/differential happening, but that the Digivice:s have been adjusting for it.



The Mimi material was generally the star of the show (Palmon being her butler and trying to stand at attention was rather amusing), as everyone expected it to be.

Although once again, only Agumon gets the stock evo footage. Palmon's initial evo worked really well visually, and worked pretty well, plus we got to see some neat action with Togemon.

The flashback to showing Mimi and Palmon meet was relatively minimal, but was enough to work.

I'd say the animation 'star' this episode was the close up of Ogremon as he leaped, the animation really worked, as did the small battle with him that ensued.


Mostly a character focused episode, which feels about right for introducing Mimi.


Although the show revealing information material beat after beat as it goes on is something else I rather like.


Next time we get Jou! (And it appears they are already in the midst of trying to cross to Cloud Continent?)
This is my concerns about this episode :

1) So they don't have to beat the Soundbirdmon to negate those mind control? I kinda feel pity for Tuskmon and Drimogemon, really

2) The crest appears in digivice during evolution. In the previous episode (episode 5), we lack seen it appear in Kabuterimon even in his first evolution.
So if we see the crest appears in their Champion evolution stage, what about their Perfect evolution would be?

3) The fighting scene between Birdramon and Coredramon (blue) seems to be unfair, limitation of Birdramon movement cause Sora in her feet
can be the one of reason. On the other hand, Coredramon (blue) can freely use both of his arms and legs. Obviously, he has more advantage of battle in the air than Birdramon.
Just my opinion (peace).

4) We don't see how Ogremon flee after one of his horns was cracked and broken by Greymon attack. Too bad
 
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I enjoyed this episode, but it's the first one where a nagging problem is keeping me from being sold on it, namely the time dilation. While it's not a bad idea to have the flow of time be relatively faster the deeper into the Net/Digital World you go, and while I can sort-of buy the digivice being able to synchronize everything for intermittent communication purposes, it zaps the narrative tension quite a bit now that they have a lot more time to fulfill their mission before Tokyo incurs severe damage. The show does all it can to distract the audience from this (the music stays dramatic and they pivot quickly to making the scene about Mimi seeing what's going on and what her grandfather's doing about it) but the way it was introduced and its role in the narrative are just so clunky. It's an abrupt, mechanically wonky bit of exposition that doesn't mesh at all with the larger story so far, like they were really scratching their heads over where/how to introduce it, or worse yet that they might have decided on it later in the writing process than they should have. This is especially disappointing because the time dilation was handled so precisely and effectively in the original series.

(I will say though that the time dilation would explain why the fight in episode 2 took substantially longer than the timer they were trying to beat...)

Anyway, things I liked: Mimi and Palmon running their adorable monarchy, Palmon's Poison Ivy being really cool and useful, some killer fight scenes, Mimi giving a punchline to an emotional scene by labeling Taichi and Sora as numbers 72 and 73 of the queendom, and Ogremon showing a bit of personality in how he reacts to losing half a horn.

And a few more things I didn't like: shoddy translation (not the show's fault, obviously), Meteor Wing still not looking as good as it should, and the music choreographing that there was a surprise coming when they went to get the fruit. Also, it just occurred to me that they made a point of showing how hungry they were, but we never saw them eat anything. They very well could have eaten off-screen so it's not a plot-hole, but just writing-wise I think if you make a point to show characters get hungry, the hunger should get addressed instead of just vanishing.

While most of this post is complaints, I want to clarify that on the whole I still enjoyed the episode. The show so far doesn't look like it's going to win any awards for its screenplay, but there's just this wholesome sincerity about it, a sense of adventurous fun that makes the action feel like substance instead of just style. It really appeals to me. My dream Digimon series may still be Tamers with a few modest revisions and a boost in production quality, but I'll take Adventure: any day of the week. I'm old and cynical enough that I can nitpick any Digimon series to shreds if I want to, but when a show puts a smile on my face every Saturday night it makes me want to define it by its highs instead of its lows.

Can't wait for Joe's episode!
 

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I'm disappointed that they use the Evo sequence just for agumon. And the opening is focused only on taichi, I wish there it were more fair.
 

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I'm disappointed that they use the Evo sequence just for agumon. And the opening is focused only on taichi, I wish there it were more fair.
Well it kinda has been the case from the original adventure where only Agumon and Gabumon were able to warp digivolve which also with 3D animation. But it is only been 6 episodes so there should be plenty time for others to shine I reckon...
 

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I am liking Mimi's character more in 2020 than the original. I did think it would be one of the episodes i would be 'meh' about. But I was not disappointed. She isn't as selfish and airheaded. Sure we still got the 'princess' Mimi, but not as overpowering. I like Palmon's evolution and the insert song really is growing on me.

I felt sorry for Ogremon a bit lol, but he does seem to working off his own back, unless we get told later on he isn't! (looks like my theory was wrong then lol)

How Mimi got her Digivice and saving Palmon i felt was a really nice touch. Really am liking the different Digimon that are being pitted against the chosen from the early days. Does make me wonder if Meramon etc will appear at some point.
 

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I didn't know I needed to see a buff Drimogemon... but I definitely did.

Overall... a really strong episode probably my favourite since 1 and 2. There were some really fun moments and probably the first jokes that actually made me laugh this series, including the aforementioned buff Drimogemon, the difference between Agumon's and Piyomon's stomach sounds and the Tanemon's leaf signals.

Animation was at least for a few bursts back at the level of episodes 1-3 which is basically all that one could hope for at this point in the series, so that makes me happy. (And the episode preview even showed a shot of Birdramon flying with her feathers moving and not looking like crappy cardboard, so things could be looking up on that front too).

The action continues to be creative and incredibly well executed for Digimon standards, I especially enjoyed the shot of Greymon taking advantage of his sorroundings by wedging himself between the rocks to attack from above. Togemon got a surprisingly dynamic debut, I was hoping for a few more genuine boxing moves like in the Togemon fight in Savers, but the over-the-top approach did work well with how flashy it was. At some points the transition between the fluid animation and the more posing based special attack stuff did still feel kind of awkward though.

Speaking of Togemon, I really wondered how they would handle Palmon's "gradual" evolution sequence that they introduce evolutions with considering Togemon lack of features that could directly transform "from" Palmon... and they went with Palmon just kind of floating and then Togemon just kind of morphing into existence within a few frames. It didn't look bad, but it was slightly underwhelming.
It's interesting how differently they established Mimi's character. She's still slightly spoiled, but whereas in the original she seemed very pampered and and somewhat out of touch courtesy of being raised by some very eccentric parents, here she's already more grounded by having her insanely philanthropic CEO grandpa basically be a walking ideal for her to look up to. I'm all for her being at least a bit more self-conscious.

The big story reveal was of course time dilation (And secondarily that news broadcasts in the world of Adventureare filmed with insanely high frame rate cameras for some reason).
Introducing it as a more dynamic factor is definitely neat but as with all neat ideas the writers need to be very careful about not to introduce inconsistencies with it. There is always the problem that if they end up going up against some enemy from the deeper areas of the net, said enemy would have a serious advantage when it comes to preparations or recuperating from potential lost fights.
They could have (and kind of already have) an inception-like set up with different characters moving at different speeds though time, and I sure hope they'll take advantage of that.

But that's for future episodes to deal with. At present my only complaint about the setup is the overly convenient synchonization function of the Digivice that clearly shouldn't really work as well as it does.
Because in the end compensating for delay just cannot "cleanly" work two ways. It would be easy enough to slow down Taichi's response on Koushiro's side but Taichi shouldn't be able to get Koushiro's (sped up) response until after some sort of delay.
Because otherwise the Digivice would have to relay responses to Taichi that Koushiro hasn't said yet because from his side there shouldn't have been enough time to reply. Unless they plan to introduce more explicit time travel shenanigans connected to the Digivices later, in which case I guess they could send back responses from the future or something.
Now perhaps they aren't that much deeper in the digital world compared to Koushiro, so the delay wouldn't be that noticeable anyway but the moment they make it a bigger deal between the groups or whatever their communication should also reflect that.

Anyway I'm very interested in what they plan to do with Ogremon in the future. He has no dialogue but he was interestingly portrayed as being pretty cunning and pragmatic (The shot off him jumping at Mimi while Togemon was preoccupied with Drimogemon has to be one of my favourites so far) while also getting defeated by Greymon and showing actual emotion over his loss. This doesn't make him a perfect rounded character or anything but there's lots of potential to have him develop his own personal reasons to fight rather than just serving the forces of evil.
 
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I enjoyed this episode, especially the battle choreography. Togemon really shined (for once) 🌵

Within one episode you felt the bond between Mimi and Palmon. The whole Tanemon Kingdom thing was a cute way to introduce her. My favorite scene was when she tears up & immediately designates Tai & Sora with numbers! Kween 👸🙌

I agree that the voice of Mimi may take some time to get used to, didn't immediately feel it was "Mimi" initially.

Also poor Ogremon, lost both his horn and his ride 🥺 Devimon better recompense his minion. 😈

That Palmon glitching scene was a nice effect, now we know how Leomon will look when he *SPOILER ALERT*: DIES 🦁☠
 

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This episode's highlight for me has been the voice actor/actress of Palmon. They are incredibly good. The animation is significantly better than last week's episode as well-
 

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I am liking Mimi's character more in 2020 than the original. I did think it would be one of the episodes i would be 'meh' about. But I was not disappointed. She isn't as selfish and airheaded. Sure we still got the 'princess' Mimi, but not as overpowering. I like Palmon's evolution and the insert song really is growing on me.

I felt sorry for Ogremon a bit lol, but he does seem to working off his own back, unless we get told later on he isn't! (looks like my theory was wrong then lol)

How Mimi got her Digivice and saving Palmon i felt was a really nice touch. Really am liking the different Digimon that are being pitted against the chosen from the early days. Does make me wonder if Meramon etc will appear at some point.
I love mimi too in this story and she act like Leader bit and her family is play role!
Digimon Adventurer : 2020 continue to please me !
 

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Yet another really good episode. :)

I really liked Mimi and Palmon as a pair to the point where Palmon is almost deleted got me really emotional. Interesting that the Time Dilation has returned, although it works different at various points so the Human World, Izzy in the Network and Taichi's group in the Digital World are all running at different speeds, wonder how that'll affect things. The battles were amazing too, particularly Ogremon vs Greymon who was showing a lot of emotional despite his caveman speech which I wonder how losing his horn will affect him... maybe he'll Evolve in the future!? :eek:

On a side note, although Agumon once again was the only one with the stock Evolution footage, am I alone in actually preferring the real time Evolution sequences? Tentomon's in particular was really good imo.
 

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A good episode, but I’m starting to miss the incredible animations we had in the first three episodes, I just don’t complain anymore because we’re in a serious state around the world and it’s not fair to ask for a fantastic animation if it puts people at risk, at least I am calm of not seeing repeated scenes as in the old anime.
I hope that the ogremon has the minimum of development and who knows in the future he can digivolve and becomes a serious threat? (even for one or two episodes)
it is likely that the anime will expect all the DigiDestined to be together and fixed for the opening and ending to change, and of course, the sequences of each other's Digi-evolutions and not just Agumon and gabumon either (after all, the two are treated as "important ", so when gabumon comes back you can expect a Digi-evolution sequence from him)
I assume that after Joe joins the team we will have Matt back in the next episode (in this case, 8), and TK and Kari will only appear a little later until then we will have a journey like the first anime in their first episodes.
 

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This was a really good episode. The minute I was thinking about how long it would take them to cross the ocean, they brought up the time dilation and seem to be getting there by the next episode. It was fun to see Mimi who's personality is still just a big but not as abrasive. As for the fighting it think it's just about everything most people wanted; tactics, traps, and kinetic battles.

The animation was really good as well. While some bit were a bit static the storyboarding and posing was strong enough to pull it through. You can tell the animators are having fun with bits like buff Dirmogemon. My favorite bit would have to be the starting motion into the coconut punch. We joke about the original Adventure being a low bar, and it is, but even they knew how to spice things up (Greymon pro wrestling). Over the years it's only gotten better and I'm glad it's keeping pace with Appmon and hope it can reach the same highs as it did.
 

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Considering this episode was meant to be about Mimi, I was afraid that it won't be very good. But this time around I was wrong, and the episode was not bad.

Though, there were a few mistakes in it. Like when Palmon trapped the kids. She has only 6 fingers, yet there were so many more vines than she has fingers, and also from all sides of the world which is kinda impossible to do.

Another one was Togemon fighting Drimogemon. One moment Togemon was blocking a hit, and another one he was jumping and attacking. It looked very unnatural.

Finally, I kinda don't really mind this, but in the old series Koushirou had to visit a temple or talk to Gennai, or download a yet another file to increase his knowledge about the Digital World and Digimons. Here, he finds out everything all by himself. We all know that he is a weird boy, but is there a limit of how weird can he be?
 

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But that's for future episodes to deal with. At present my only complaint about the setup is the overly convenient synchonization function of the Digivice that clearly shouldn't really work as well as it does.
Because in the end compensating for delay just cannot "cleanly" work two ways. It would be easy enough to slow down Taichi's response on Koushiro's side but Taichi shouldn't be able to get Koushiro's (sped up) response until after some sort of delay.
Because otherwise the Digivice would have to relay responses to Taichi that Koushiro hasn't said yet because from his side there shouldn't have been enough time to reply. Unless they plan to introduce more explicit time travel shenanigans connected to the Digivices later, in which case I guess they could send back responses from the future or something.
Now perhaps they aren't that much deeper in the digital world compared to Koushiro, so the delay wouldn't be that noticeable anyway but the moment they make it a bigger deal between the groups or whatever their communication should also reflect that.
I was wondering about the same thing during the episode and it definitely bugged me, but what do you think about this as a possible explanation: Rather than adjusting the messages, the digivices adjust the Digital World itself. When they're in communication, they "underclock" the entire Digital World to match the local time of the digivice at the shallowest depth. This does seem like a lot of power to give the digivices, but maybe in this capacity they're acting more like terminals for something much more powerful at the "kernel level" or whatever. That's how I'd write it, anyway; not sure if it's what the writers have in mind.
 

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Weee!
My favorite episode so far!
I keep meaning to mention this but I love the title cards for each episode. They're very cool.

To me, it feels like Mimi has been our first 'departure' from the original characterization of the character. I felt the original was VERY innocent and always a step behind the older kids (and koshiro), but now she seems very capable and more acclimated than Taichi and Sora and I feel like that's reflected in her voice actress -which took a minute to get used to. Palmon, as usual, is just so charming and fantastic.I was really moved by her scream as she was hit and her conversation with Mimi while she was glitching on the floor. I admit, I thought she was gonna die for a minute. I was very relieved to get that evolution started and boy did Togemon deliver! She didn't have as much dialogue as the other adults had but there's still time!

I wonder how the introduction of Mimi's grandfather will change her family dynamic going forward. I assume we'll still meet her parents at some point, but I wonder if they'll still be a lovey-dovey pair? Her grandfather looks so stern.
 

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I was expecting more of a conflict in Mimi's family dynamic, but that's my only quibble, and there's time for it still. With Mimi being an heiress, her asserting herself as "queen" definitely clicked, but then her grandfather turned out to be an altruistic billionaire (you know, the kind that totally exists in the real world) so that undercut a bit of the tension.

The fight scenes are top-notch though, and I like the slow burn reveal of the lore.
 
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