AppliMonsters Episode 49: The Miraculous Final Evolution!

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Why anti-Digimon? Maybe it's a little bit different from what we are used to, but not bad at all imo and even understandable to be honest (Haru only knows Gatchmon from almost a year, whereas he knows Yuujin since the elementary school). Apart from the ones that Jay has already mentioned (Yamato in particular), I can only think now of Koji & Koichi from Frontier having this bond that strong and unique that they sometimes even don't care about anything else, but maybe Frontier is not the best example since the partner Digimon are Spirits through most of the season. What I don't really understand about Appmon's writers, is why they try so hard to keep labelling Haruujin relationship as a simple friendship, when it's obviously something else. And also Offmon's motives. My God, what the heck is going on in the head of this pure hearted Appmon?
 
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It's like Jay said, your digimon partner is supposed to be your rock, the one that is always there and keeps you going. Chosen children are often showcased as rather static people, and their digimon give them the strength to move forward in life, with Appmon being no exception. Each of the Applidrivers were able to move towards their dreams with the help of their partners.

Haru *has* known Yuujin forever, yes. It totally makes sense that this would shake him to his core. However, his relationship with Yuujin was not pushing him, it was (and still is) stunting him. Meeting Gatchmon, getting into this situation where he matters, where it's up to him to set things right, that's what let him grow as a person. He gained the courage to be a protagonist, to help where he's needed, to make friends and live life.

...And then Yuujin showed up again. He came in with a stronger Appmon, he started being the focus of Haru's life again, Haru started only caring for Yuujin once more. This would actually be fine if it was being played so that he had to learn to grow past this, to accept that he can't let Yuujin hold him back...but that's not what happened. Instead Haru blatantly ignored everyone, making no attempt to help even himself, which led into the, quite frankly, heartbreaking scene of Gatchmon failing to get through to his partner. Instead of the one that's helped him become a better person, the one that's stuck with him through everything (except that silly petty jealousy episode instigated by, surprise surprise, Yuujin and Offmon), it's Yuujin that breaks him out of his depression, and it's being played off as a good thing.

If this was a darker show, I'd expect Gatchmon to start falling into depression and self-doubt himself here. What I'd hoped was that Yuujin wouldn't get a "redemption" or whatever, and that Haru would have to deal with the fact he has to move on. The only thing close to that at this point would be Yuujin still needing to be destroyed, but it wouldn't really be enough, and they almost certainly won't do that anyways.

So yeah, it just feels very not-digimon to me, and Yuujin's kinda ruining the show a bit, to me.
 

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Episode was pretty good, I really liked it. Those HaruxYuujin scenes make me think Haru really likes him more than a friend... I hope I'm mistaken though. Fight against Deusmon was good, I enjoyed it. Leviathan looks so badass as well! So it is one episode left only? Looking forward to it so bad..
 

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Actually, there are three episodes left. Appmon's got 52 episodes.
 

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IMO Yuujin getting killed would be too grimdark and we have people getting blendered. But yeah I agree Haru not thinking about Gatchmon is kinda jarring but we also already know Haru would jump into a vat of acid to save Gatchmon.

You know, this is kinda horrifying when you realize everything within Leviathan calculation.
"I commend you for achieving the God Grade Chosen Children."
 

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I'm beginning to think that Yuujin is going to sacrifice himself, and YJ-14. Don't know how, but I'm starting to expect another Oikawa.
 

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As I said before, Yujin is basically Masaya from Tokyo Mew Mew.
 

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I'm beginning to think that Yuujin is going to sacrifice himself, and YJ-14. Don't know how, but I'm starting to expect another Oikawa.
I think another Koichi or Suguru is more likely.

About Leviathan's physical form, I don't care for it much (not that the manga version was any better). It looks really stiff, but maybe that's intentional. I may grow to like it in the coming episodes. Wonder if we'll ever see it drawn instead of rendered in bad CGI.
 

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Honestly, I'm still kind of expecting Haru to have to learn the value of standing up and acting without Yuujin around. I expect the moment that Haru learns that is the moment that Offmon will have to step in to finish redeeming Yuujin. It just seems like the kinda thing Digimon would do.
 

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In a way I pretty well understand Haru. It's like when you're in a hospital when your critically hurt beloved is under surgery right now. You ignore everything and everybody in the room waiting for the beloved person to say you a word or a doctor to say you that the surgery was successful. Therefore I pretty well understand why Yuujin's cheerful voice was enough to wake up Haru. He was waiting to hear it. Plus, Haru actually lost the will to live, and that's another reason why would he ignore everybody. Unlike Tora and Eri, he was faced with some facts that he needed more time to mull over them. I think this part was well done. It would be more strange if he immediately would wake up as if nothing had happened. Gatchmon couldn't reach Haru because Haru thought that Gatchmon doesn't understand the situation he's in, and therefore some empty words won't help him leaving the depression he's in.

But in a way it's funny that Yuujin still "cares" of Haru and would even go to his previous persona only to haunt Haru even more. In a way this was pretty sick sadistic.
 

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Maybe the reason why Leviathan wants/needs all the 6 god grade is to summon the 7th god grade. The fact that 'god type' symbol is a triangular G with seven color might means that there's 7 god grades in total. Leviathan probbaly want the 7th one for his human application project or maybe use it like Deusmon in the manga.
 

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It's like Jay said, your digimon partner is supposed to be your rock, the one that is always there and keeps you going. Chosen children are often showcased as rather static people, and their digimon give them the strength to move forward in life, with Appmon being no exception. Each of the Applidrivers were able to move towards their dreams with the help of their partners.

Haru *has* known Yuujin forever, yes. It totally makes sense that this would shake him to his core. However, his relationship with Yuujin was not pushing him, it was (and still is) stunting him. Meeting Gatchmon, getting into this situation where he matters, where it's up to him to set things right, that's what let him grow as a person. He gained the courage to be a protagonist, to help where he's needed, to make friends and live life.

...And then Yuujin showed up again. He came in with a stronger Appmon, he started being the focus of Haru's life again, Haru started only caring for Yuujin once more. This would actually be fine if it was being played so that he had to learn to grow past this, to accept that he can't let Yuujin hold him back...but that's not what happened. Instead Haru blatantly ignored everyone, making no attempt to help even himself, which led into the, quite frankly, heartbreaking scene of Gatchmon failing to get through to his partner. Instead of the one that's helped him become a better person, the one that's stuck with him through everything (except that silly petty jealousy episode instigated by, surprise surprise, Yuujin and Offmon), it's Yuujin that breaks him out of his depression, and it's being played off as a good thing.

If this was a darker show, I'd expect Gatchmon to start falling into depression and self-doubt himself here. What I'd hoped was that Yuujin wouldn't get a "redemption" or whatever, and that Haru would have to deal with the fact he has to move on. The only thing close to that at this point would be Yuujin still needing to be destroyed, but it wouldn't really be enough, and they almost certainly won't do that anyways.

So yeah, it just feels very not-digimon to me, and Yuujin's kinda ruining the show a bit, to me.
I think the problem here is that we're expecting a lot from Haru right now, and I disagree that his relationship with Yuujin is "not pushing" him. We can see his value as a protag, but keep in mind that his idea of a protag has always been Yuujin and he's looked up to him as a role model for many years. Yuujin's words and being there are the instigator for the courage that Haru feels, but yes, it is stunting him because a lot of times he's in Yuujin's shadow and doesn't seem to feel that it's hindering him. He really does believe that trying to be his ideal protagonist is what will lead to his growth, especially since it's gotten him this far already. But now he learns that it was all a sham; everything that Haru has been trying to emulate was a lie. He feels like he doesn't have something else to fall back onto, so he feels lost, without his own sense of self anymore. When you can't even see what your value is as a person, you really don't consider what you can do for other people and what your value is to them. Gatchmon did pull Haru through, so he has leverage. Obviously it's not something that Haru is going to get over with a snap of the fingers. But he's just started to take the first step in this episode, by finding an inkling that his past ambition really was real in a way, and going about it in his own groping-through-the-dark style. So let's see how he does in the next episode.

Believe me, I was super annoyed in the Damedamon episode because I thought Haru should have been the one making decisions by now, but he didn't start acting until Yuujin said something. But maybe my idea of "Haru should be able to do this already" is not on par with what Haru thinks he can. Now he's doing something about it on his own, with some idea of what to do next, without copying someone. So for now, I'd say let's see.
 

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Maybe the reason why Leviathan wants/needs all the 6 god grade is to summon the 7th god grade. The fact that 'god type' symbol is a triangular G with seven color might means that there's 7 god grades in total. Leviathan probbaly want the 7th one for his human application project or maybe use it like Deusmon in the manga.
As much as I would LOVE to see a new never-before-seen Appmon, I don't think they would introduce a 7th one just for the purposes of the anime...well, the last 3 episodes of the anime.

Also, the colors thing wouldn't make sense.
Gaiamon = Red, which is not Social (Blue).
Poseidomon = Blue, which is not Game (Orange).
Uranusmon = Yellow, which is not Entertainment (Red).
Hadesmon = Purple, which is not System (Yellow).
Rebootmon = ...Pink?, which is not Tool (Purple).
Deusmon = ...Orange?, which is not Navi? (Green).

Rebootmon & Deusmon: I will admit, I did stretch a LOT, but my point stands: It doesn't make sense to introduce a 7th God Appmon based on App Type, exclusively for the finale.

...If they did (they won't), it would be a Green-colored Appmon that's based off of Life (Pink).
 
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Each of the God-Grades is one of the 7 types, though, right? Which type is left out?
 

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Maybe the reason why Leviathan wants/needs all the 6 god grade is to summon the 7th god grade. The fact that 'god type' symbol is a triangular G with seven color might means that there's 7 god grades in total. Leviathan probbaly want the 7th one for his human application project or maybe use it like Deusmon in the manga.
As much as I would LOVE to see a new never-before-seen Appmon, I don't think they would introduce a 7th one just for the purposes of the anime...well, the last 3 episodes of the anime.

Also, the colors thing wouldn't make sense.
Gaiamon = Red, which is not Social (Blue).
Poseidomon = Blue, which is not Game (Orange).
Uranusmon = Yellow, which is not Entertainment (Red).
Hadesmon = Purple, which is not System (Yellow).
Rebootmon = ...Pink?, which is not Tool (Purple).
Deusmon = ...Orange?, which is not Navi? (Green).

Rebootmon & Deusmon: I will admit, I did stretch a LOT, but my point stands: It doesn't make sense to introduce a 7th God Appmon based on App Type, exclusively for the finale.

...If they did (they won't), it would be a Green-colored Appmon that's based off of Life (Pink).
If we use the color aura in their god symbol Rebootmon has two, orange and and purple.
 

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Each of the God-Grades is one of the 7 types, though, right? Which type is left out?
Unfortunately, no. Their Grade and Attribute are both God.
 

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That was a pretty cool episode. The mega apps were really cool. We even got Rebootmon. But is Yujin breaking away from YJ-15? At least Haru is out of his betray/brokenheart-edness. Next ep we get Gaiamon but now we have the big L it's self. Doesn't look like "Levi-chan" from the manga. But still, that looks cool. I thought it'd be full snake thing. ...How many eps do we have left?
 

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According to the DVD preorders, we have 52 episodes.

So, 50, 51, and 52 is what we have left.
 

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I think guys you are reading things wrong. The God Grade symbol has a total of 7 colors that represent, if so, the 'peak' of the different types of Appmon, instead of indicating that it should potentially be 7 God Appmon, each representing one type. After all, as TMS has already mentioned, the 6 Gods' Grades and Attributes are simply 'God', which in my opinion means something like the Gods have gone beyond the 7 elemental types by being able of mastering all of them at the same time. In a nutshell:



So no, there won't probably be a 7th God in the show. Unfortunately enough for Satellamon.
 

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I think guys you are reading things wrong. The God Grade symbol has a total of 7 colors that represent, if so, the 'peak' of the different types of Appmon, instead of indicating that it should potentially be 7 God Appmon, each representing one type. After all, as TMS has already mentioned, the 6 Gods' Grades and Attributes are simply 'God', which in my opinion means something like the Gods have gone beyond the 7 elemental types by being able of mastering all of them at the same time. In a nutshell:



So no, there won't probably be a 7th God in the show. Unfortunately enough for Satellamon.
Yeah, I know. I guess I got carried away with the whole "This is why it won't happen" thing. Apologies.
 
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