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Thread: GraceNovamon and the Digital World "Iliad"

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    [QUOTE=Benschachar;319376][QUOTE=Sparrow Hawk;318997]
    Quote Originally Posted by salman332 View Post
    Isn't the claw on his shoulder is just Dianamon weapon?
    Well I'm positive those blue blades are Dianamon's arrows, since it's upgraded homing arrow missiles. If it's really Dianamon's scythe weapon then it gotta be scythe shaped weapon.

    Eclipse Finger is Apollomon's, it said it is strong enough to melt all substances now it simply touches to melt enemies to death.

    Anything? Even gold digizoit?
    What happens if he attacks some phlebotinum immune to melting?
    Sometimes I wonder how the digital world avoids collapsing due under it's own contradictions.
    Gold digizoid isn't even the toughtest digizoid, it's special property is that it boost firepower.
    Magnamon invicibility is his own ability. I assume that is what you are talking about.

    Given that we have see few digital world actually collapse or become fragmented because power mon clashed...(Cyber Sleuth and Xros War)

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    Gold digizoid isn't even the toughtest digizoid, it's special property is that it boost firepower.
    Magnamon invicibility is his own ability. I assume that is what you are talking about.

    Given that we have see few digital world actually collapse or become fragmented because power mon clashed...(Cyber Sleuth and Xros War)
    I'm pretty certain it improves far more than firepower but yes I meant to say "Huanglong Ore".

    From the wikia:
    Gold Digizoid (ゴールドデジゾイド, Gōrudo Dejizoido?) is an alloy of Chrome Digizoid that shines with a divine, golden radiance, and renders the user completely invulnerable. So apparently it's worse because Gold Diigizoit is just immune to all forms of attack which presumably includes heat. Unless the wikia is just full of people talking b.s. which might be a possibility.
    There is no contradiction here. In fact we now that digizoid is derived from huanglong ore... which one assume involves melting said ore, so there's not really a reason assume that this class of material cannot be melted.
    I don't know I mean most digimon are just sorta evolved fully formed and the materials that make up their being just kind of appear out of nowhere in complete violation of multiple laws of thermodynamics. The card descriptions are kind of bizarre in that way since they seem to insinuate some kind of natural process whereas in every other form of media the digivolution just sort of happens.
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    well invulnerbility is kinda floppy when it comes to Huanglong Ore, i mean Lucemon child beat him according to the reference book entry.
    even though it was through sealing, it at best would make you invulnerable to brute force/physical hits i say, other means can most likely still defeat the wearer something like the Omega sword or Delete all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benschachar View Post

    Gold digizoid isn't even the toughtest digizoid, it's special property is that it boost firepower.
    Magnamon invicibility is his own ability. I assume that is what you are talking about.

    Given that we have see few digital world actually collapse or become fragmented because power mon clashed...(Cyber Sleuth and Xros War)
    I'm pretty certain it improves far more than firepower but yes I meant to say "Huanglong Ore".

    From the wikia:
    Gold Digizoid (ゴールドデジゾイド, Gōrudo Dejizoido?) is an alloy of Chrome Digizoid that shines with a divine, golden radiance, and renders the user completely invulnerable. So apparently it's worse because Gold Diigizoit is just immune to all forms of attack which presumably includes heat. Unless the wikia is just full of people talking b.s. which might be a possibility.
    There is no contradiction here. In fact we now that digizoid is derived from huanglong ore... which one assume involves melting said ore, so there's not really a reason assume that this class of material cannot be melted.
    I don't know I mean most digimon are just sorta evolved fully formed and the materials that make up their being just kind of appear out of nowhere in complete violation of multiple laws of thermodynamics. The card descriptions are kind of bizarre in that way since they seem to insinuate some kind of natural process whereas in every other form of media the digivolution just sort of happens.
    Looking at the source on that invicibility statement, it come from Magnamon X profile about him turning gold and entering "gold digizoid state" but that more because the X-Antibody enchantement than gild digizoid natural ability.
    Magnamon X is a Holy Knight Digimon and a carrier of the X Antibody. One of the "Royal Knights", it digivolved through the power of the Digi-Egg of Miracles. Its armor is made of the super-metal Chrome Digizoid, but it has been completely integrated with Magnamon's body through X-Digivolution, to the point that it possesses a nature similar to muscles. During battle it will increase in hardness, and if it enters the "Gold Digizoid" state in which its entire body shines gold, it is completely invulnerable.[4]
    So yeah...
    The most consistent thing about gold digizoid is that it's increased firepower according to Magnamon, ZekeGreymon and OmegaShoutmon, which Omega Shout profile also mentioned it maintained speed even with the firepower increased.
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    No references about improved firepower on OmegaShoutmon's profile(which doesn't even refers to the Gold Digizoid), ZekeGreymon's only talks about its defensive capabilities. Magnamon's profile doesn't talk about the Gold Digizoid ability and Magnamon X's profile hasn't been translated yet(or at least the translation isn't on Wikimon)

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    I don't think "firepower" is the best way to put it. Magnamon X's profile says Gold Digizoid works with Magnamon's muscles to improve his physical strength.
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    I've translated Magnamon X's profile:
    'Chrome Digizoid' grows stronger the more it is tempered, and there exists no other material quite like it. Magnamon's imaginary super-metal had become one with its limits, and was able to grow and regress as if it were made of muscles. The natural form of 'Chrome Digizoid' (in other words, the Digimental of Miracles) was created using ancient technology, and its original characteristic was how it could be integrated into living organisms; a state similar to that, when combined with Magnamon's abilities, is thought to be the manifestation of a miraculous evolution. When Magnamon's muscles, or 'Chrome Digizoid', are strained, they temporarily transform into "Gold Digizoid", which envelops its entire body in a golden glow; not only does it raise physical defense, it also bestows a state of absolute defense that is capable of resisting even data-disintegrating types of attacks. Furthermore, when in the "Gold Digizoid" state, its properties are similar to those of the Huanglong Ore, which boasts unparalleled, absolute hardness and is used as the base for 'Chrome Digizoid'; as such, in addition to absolute defense, it also adds a great amount of weight ill-suited for Digimon, though Magnamon has overcome that by tempering its own 'Chrome Digizoid'.
    If it's confusing, it's because I'm confused by it as well /-\ I'll have to take another look at it..
    If anyone has any better ways to phrase this mess feel free to point them out too. haha

    But the main points about this profile are that
    - The Digimental of Miracles is equated to Chrome Digizoid "「クロンデジゾイド」(=奇跡のデジメンタル)". Regular Magnamon's profile does state that the Digimental of Miracles is made of Chrome Digizoid.
    - Magnamon X's muscles are Chrome Digizoid; Chrome Digizoid is able to grow/regress as if it were muscles.
    - When those muscles are strained, they transform into Gold Digizoid.
    - Gold Digizoid's properties are more similar to Huanglong Ore than Chrome Digizoid; meaning it is harder, but heavier.
    - By training its muscles (Chrome Digizoid), Magnamon X can overcome the Gold Digizoid's crippling weight.

    Regular Magnamon's armour is made of Chrome Digizoid, NOT Gold. Magnamon X's is Chrome, but can temporarily turn to Gold.
    The 'heavy weight' thing does contradict Zekegreymon's profile, which states that its Gold Digizoid body is "surprisingly light for its immense defensive ability", though light can be subjective i guess. lol
    It also contradicts Shoutmon DX's, which states that its speed is not sacrificed thanks to the Gold Digizoid (implying that it is lightweight).
    Omegashoutmon does NOT have Gold (or any) Digizoid.

    tldr the only thing in common with all profiles seems to be that that Gold Digizoid has increased defensive ability.

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    It could possibly be implying that Gold Digizoid is supposed to be both incredibly defensive, but also highly flexible, since it can apparently make up muscle fiber. And that could mean that the whole "surprisingly light" thing for ZekeGreymon/ShoutmonDX means he still has full range of motion from the high flexibility, which would be a 'surprise' considering how 'heavy'/'bulky' his Gold Digizoid armor is.
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    The Digimental of Miracles is made of Chrome Digizoid.
    Magnamon "wears" the Digimental.
    Magmaon X FUSE with the Digimental, which basically becomes his own muscles.
    When Magnamon X tenses his muscles, they turn into Gold Digizoid.
    Gold Digizoid:
    • is more similar to Huanglong Ore than Chrome Digizoid
    • is defensive capabilities are much higher than Chrome Digizoid
    • is much heavier than Chrome Digizoid
      • Magnamon X "tempered his own Chrome Digizoid" to conquer it
        • aka trained hard?

    • [from ZekeGreymon's profile] it's very light compared to its defensive abilities
      • it means other materials\digizoid metals with comparable defensive abilities weight much more
        • this explains why Shoutmon DX didn't lose speed thanks to the Gold Digizoid: the armor he was using before was probably heavier to achieve the same defensive ability.

    • gains anti-Data-Deletion defensive abilities.
      • as in: CyberDramon's Erase Claw or Omegamon's All Delete data-deletion effect wouldn't work, or would have a limited effect.

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    Is the XII meant to be pronounced/read as "duodecim"?

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