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Thread: AppliMonsters Episode 24: The Titanic Cometmon Attacks!? Open the Door, Dantemon!

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    He means I'm probably just outgrowing Digimon. I've wondered when/if it would happen. But it's too early to tell. Maybe I'll like the next series better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Ukyou View Post
    I'm rewatching Frontier. I'm sorry to say that it's probably the latter.
    In which way do you think Frontier is silly in the same way as TMS referred to Appmon, if I may ask?

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    Also i enjoyed Dantemon (though i thought he is a bit...stupid?).
    Well, it wouldn't be AppliMonsters if it wasn't at least a little stupid. Though I can't tell if this series is actually sillier than all the previous ones or if I'm just finally starting to outgrow Digimon.
    While I'm enjoying AppliMonsters pretty much, I can see your point. The series has some very interesting points, but it definetely doesn't have the same tone as the previous ones, the sense of danger and 'life or death" situations don't feel exactly the same, maybe the music atmosphere, the CGI or the fact that some characters aren't credible from time to time, doesn't help either. Well, after all it was advertised from the beginning to a younger audience and sort of "start from scratch" from the classical Digimon, and while most of the other seasons were targeted to the same public, it's kind of different. For example, Xros Wars aims to a younger audience, but at the same time, includes lots of elements in order to appeal long-time fans, which are grown-ups, this aspect is quite better displayed in the manga counterpart, where the writers don't have any restrictions in that way.
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    Frontier is as goofy and full of tropes, if not moreso, as Appmon. Especially in its first half. (and the Royal Knights arc was goofy too, but for completely different reasons...)

    And personally, I think every season, except for perhaps Tamers, is full of silliness, especially early on. And even Tamers engaged in some good old-fashioned comic fun from time to time too. Hirokazu and Kenta's adventure with Babamon and Jijimon?

    Appmon feels a lot like early 02 and early Savers. (And a bit of Hunters, though that's more setting than tone?) It also feels like Yokai Watch, which I'm slowly realizing is Appmon's true competitor. When Adventure first came out and it was drawing all the obvious parallels to Pokemon, it managed to carve out a niche for itself by having the more dramatic and dynamic storyline/characters. Appmon is now basically using all the main trappings of Yokai Watch and doing the same thing. That's the major tone shift, not some kind of new target age demographic. Every season has always targetted the same age group, with roughly the same amount of silliness, just trying to be just a tiny bit more dynamic and dramatic than its competitor. That's why I think TMS (among others) might just be 'getting too old' for Digimon.

    It doesn't seem that strange to me, honestly. I also 'outgrew' Digimon for a time. It was pretty easy due to it being 'over' after Frontier and then Savers and then Hunters. But while I watched those shows and sort of picked up the lore that happened, I wasn't really 'into' Digimon anymore. I just wasn't at a stage of my life where it meant anything to me. I'm back into it now, partly because of tri, moreso because of Cyber Sleuth. But I'm still here because I see a different kind of value in programming made for children rather than for adults. I still consume a lot of TV shows and such for adults, but there's something entertaining and imagination-gripping in the arch characters and simplified plotlines of shows like Digimon/Appmon. It took some distance from it for a time to appreciate its value, especially as a contrast to more adult stories.
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    Thanks a lot for elaborate it! I kind of feel the same way about Digimon. I think it is one of the most brilliant and creative series I've ever seen for so many reasons, even if it's targeted to a younger audience, at least in origin (the videogames have clearly taken off from this premise, if they ever were children-oriented, which I highly doubt).
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    Cometmon was huge! I hope they could fix everything. Dantemon was cool. Dantemon is great at singing. Too bad Dantemon got so stoned he couldn't move. Also I like the new band. It's pretty nice looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown Neo
    Dantemon got so stoned he couldn't move
    get out

    Anyways, the 7code appmon said that they aren't 7code anymore, which means they don't have a "3 times their code number" power level anymore!

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    Well that was fun. Cometmon and Dantemon both certainly had enough pomp and circumstance behind their appearances. A little miffed that Dantemon was hyped up this much only to be written out after only one episode, but itís a fair compromise to keep him alive for later reappearance without risking him wrecking the power balance of the show, the other solution to which would be Nerfing him horribly. Next episode looks fun too: I wonder if the entire Deep Web is going to look like this kind of digital cityscape. It would be very interesting if it did: weíve never really had a series set in a digital city, and it would give plenty of opportunities to observe appmon as actual intelligences comparable to humans, as opposed to the wild animals they resemble in the Net Ocean. Strange, though, that next episode doesnít really seem like the end of an arc, but rather itís beginning: I would have expected that to pivot right with the timeslot change. Perhaps at the halfway point in three more episodes. We havenít even had word of a new opening, have we?

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    Well, it wouldn't be AppliMonsters if it wasn't at least a little stupid. Though I can't tell if this series is actually sillier than all the previous ones or if I'm just finally starting to outgrow Digimon.
    This is the franchise that gave us Etemon and Blastmon as recurring villains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour Butz View Post
    This is the franchise that gave us Etemon and Blastmon as recurring villains.
    And Vamdemon/Myotismon.

    Anyway, I'm very intrigued as to where the season will go from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour Butz View Post
    This is the franchise that gave us Etemon and Blastmon as recurring villains.
    You may have a point. At the same time, Etemon and Blastmon were the exceptions in their respective series, whereas I feel like with Appmon most of the villains have been silly, only unlike Etemon and Blastmon they're rarely serious threats. Etemon was campy, but he still handed every opponent their ass until MetalGreymon showed up. Now, I know it's not quite fair to compare monsters of the week to major villains, and generally Appmon's major villains have been treated a little bit better, though Mienumon was a joke until she became Warudamon; and I think that there's a noticeable difference even between Appmon's monsters of the week and the minor enemies from previous series. Just to pick a random example, the Soulmon episode of Savers was mostly for laughs, but we still wound up with Soulmon hijacking a ship and threatening to ram it into the city.

    Anyway, Cometmon... was as impressive as someone could hope to be whose only action is to move forward in a straight line. Speaking of which, he kind of came out of nowhere. What was the explanation for that? I assume Leviathan just told him to show up when they reached the door?
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    Thatís correct. I donít mind stuff like that once in awhile though. Presumably Leviathan has hidden assets all over the place.

    Speaking of which, whatever happened to Coachmon? They rushed off without him in episode twenty-one, didnít they? Donít they still need him to reach extreme form?

    Whatever. Appmon is pretty poor on handling dramatic tension, for reasons that you highlight.

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