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    Strange claims on TV Tropes

    I was browsing the Digimon (franchise) page on TV Tropes and came across the following claims, which I've not seen backing for from other sources. I was wondering if anyone can back these up?

    • In the Pendulum X, the Royal Knights drop "Master Tags" that, when applied to your Digimon, transform your Digimon into a host for the defeated Royal Knight's soul, meaning that you lose control of them to Yggdrasill.
    • In Adventure, all forms of Mega Digivolution cause the Digital World to become more unstable and vulnerable to attack.
    • In the anime and manga, digivolving to Mega shortens a Digimon's lifespan.
    • Millenniummon is responsible for releasing Apocalymon.
    • Dark Evolution is completely safe when a Digimon undergoes it naturally, and is only dangerous when a human-partnered Digimon uses it.
    • All human-partnered Digimon (not just in Savers) feed on human emotions in order to digivolve.
    • WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon were designed based on the digivolving toys.
    • Xros Wars had abnormally low ratings, and was only continued because of good toy sales.
    • MarineAngemon's head is severed from its body, and secured by its Holy Ring.
    • GranDracmon is specifically responsible for corrupting Lucemon.
    • Xros Wars is spelled with an "X" based on the Greek word, "Xaos".
    • The NFL's Terry Bradshaw hosted "Digithons" on Fox Kids, and would provide commentary between episodes.

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    Some of these I've gone over with other people before.

    - The Master Tags are actual items that are used to evolve to Omegamon X, Dukemon X, and Alphamon Ouryuuken, according to File Island. They are obtained by defeating Omegamon X and Dukemon X, but I doubt that they have any "story" significance.

    - Millenniumon freeing Apocalymon has long been fanon. However, I've talked to Ajora, the owner of the Wonderswan fansite who understands Japanese and played through the Ryo games, and nothing like this is actually stated in the games.

    - The Dark Evolution thing is never stated, but whether it's true or not depends on what you mean by "safe," and what counts as a Dark Evolution (I believe that every time the term has been used in the anime, it was referring to an evolution undergone by a partner Digimon).

    - The emotion-feeding thing may never be stated, but it seems to be the case, since Digimon tend to evolve when their human partners make some kind of emotional breakthrough.

    - The MarineAngemon thing is almost certainly false. I've never seen it except on fansites, and never with any source to back it up.

    - GrandDracumon is never said to be responsible for Lucemon's downfall. Like the Millenniumon thing, it's become fanon because GrandDracumon's profile could be interpreted as a reference to it.
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    Dark Evolution. It's rationalized as a perfectly legitimate potential evolution variation under natural circumstances, but in Digimon partnered to humans, it's an aberration caused by very negative emotions on the human's part.
    That's what TVTropes has to say about it, and it sounds like they're claiming that Dark Evolution is only "abnormal and morally wrong" when human-partnered Digimon do it.

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    I was under the impression that Gennai or the Homeostasis told the Chosen Children that there was nothing inherently wrong with an evolution, just that evolutions like SkullGreymon are not the ones that were needed at the time. However, I can't recall which episode that was in.
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    The Terry Bradshaw thing is correct. It was called the Digi-Bowl, and I do remember watching it once.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiwSnEKVCMM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inpu View Post
    In Adventure, all forms of Mega Digivolution cause the Digital World to become more unstable and vulnerable to attack.
    I kinda doubt that, as it doesn't make much sense. Think about it: In Adventure, the Ultimate(Mega) forms of both Agumon and Gabumon were created from the miracle of Hope and Light. So, to say that the Warp Evolution causes the Digital World to be unstable would be like saying that the power of Hope and Light to do the same, which doesn't make any sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Inpu View Post
    In the anime and manga, digivolving to Mega shortens a Digimon's lifespan.
    In most interpretations of Digimon, digimon don't have lifespans. They never grow old or die of old age(in most interpretations, not all). They can be killed, but they're effectively immortal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Inpu View Post
    All human-partnered Digimon (not just in Savers) feed on human emotions in order to digivolve.
    Yup! Completely true.
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    Xros Wars is spelled with an "X" based on the Greek word, "Xaos".
    "Xaos" means chaos in Greek, so I kinda doubt that. I think they spelled with an X because 1.) it looks cool and 2.) X is a criss-cross, kinda like how Christmas is spelled Xmas sometimes.

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    The NFL's Terry Bradshaw hosted "Digithons" on Fox Kids, and would provide commentary between episodes.
    Yup! It was known as the "Digi-bowl" and it was AWESOME!! Digimon all morning long and you got to vote for whichever series you liked best. It was like American Idol, except without the singing, being all killer and no filler, and with Digimon. It was great! Shame they could only do it twice though.

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    In Adventure, all forms of Mega Digivolution cause the Digital World to become more unstable and vulnerable to attack.
    I think they got confused. Its in Adventure V-Tamer 01 that the Mega Evolution cause the DW become unstable. The likes of Deathmon (Ghoulmon) causing rifts to the real world and Lord Holy sealing off his mega form because he don't want to disturb those around him.
    Last edited by Exiled; 11-26-2012 at 03:14 PM. Reason: typo

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    Yup! Completely true.
    To clarify, I'm trying to determine whether there is backing (i.e. evidence, sources) for these claims.

    At least in the dub, in Adventure, Digimon did not feed off of emotions; the Digivices allowed a human to share their indefinable "energy" with their Digimon for a temporary boost. The traits (not emotions) of the Crests were a hand-waved method to funnel more energy towards the Digimon (presumably because that defining trait was where the child spent most of their energy).

    Then again, the Seven Deadly Sin traits worked similarly to the Crest traits...I'm just not confident about their assertion that all Digimon do that in every season.

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    I think the only reason the MarineAngemon rumour was started is because his head looks like a Koromon. But, if you look at Pichimon, Bukamon and Gomamon he is clearly supposed to be related to that line. Those lines have their heads attached, so yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inpu View Post
    Yup! Completely true.
    To clarify, I'm trying to determine whether there is backing (i.e. evidence, sources) for these claims.

    At least in the dub, in Adventure, Digimon did not feed off of emotions; the Digivices allowed a human to share their indefinable "energy" with their Digimon for a temporary boost. The traits (not emotions) of the Crests were a hand-waved method to funnel more energy towards the Digimon (presumably because that defining trait was where the child spent most of their energy).

    Then again, the Seven Deadly Sin traits worked similarly to the Crest traits...I'm just not confident about their assertion that all Digimon do that in every season.
    If evolution wasn't fed by emotions, please explain Greymon --> SkullGreymon, as well as Gabumon --> MetalGarurumon during his fight against WarGreymon. And also, Love counts as an emotion.

    Oh. And Guilmon's Megidramon evolution, along with the debut appearance of Dukemon.

    I'm sure there have been times where the series explains digivolution as a result of emotions, especially in the dub, but it's been far too long for me to remember any specifically (especially with my mind on Eureka Seven AO just now).
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